2/17/11

SOUTH BAY / SOUTH SIDE SAN DIEGO

SOxBAY, the “SOUTH SIDE” of SAN DIEGO;
Rich in the tradition of the Varrios..

With old neighborhoods and antiguo Raza that cliqued up and set up their Varrios long ago.

Varrios which are now on the list amongst the very olden ones of all thee "1902" Condado.

Varrios even as old as those from other Sides of the County;
Like those from
BARRIO LOGAN,
BARRIO SHERMAN,
LA COLONIA EDEN GARDENS
or ENSENITAS TORTILLA FLATS

All of these same Olden SOUTHxBAY Varrios..

Like
SIDRO
DEL SOL
IMPERIAL
OTAY
PALMAS
NESTOR
OTNC
VCV

~> Survive going strong..
even onto this present age

How and when did it all start out down here?
It is hard to say.
It's all been around for a long ass time.
Part of it you can tell by the plenty numeros of oldie vatos still kicking it in these parts of the Old Land!..

The attitude i dare say,
has been here
from as far back as there’s been raza staking claim to a piece of ground in the Southwest
The Southwest called ~> AZTLAN..
and that goes back, way back..
way way back in time.

From old beginner times, these local grounds have been a cross-road between the two Republics of European-White-America and European-Mestizo-Mexico.
Both cultures threw some in there and spiced up the soul, helping out to lift up the heads of the local vatos.
High on pride and commitment to family, they carried themselves and went about their days laboring in the fields, working in the packing plants, working in construction projects, or on the docks.
After work they would always find some time to socialize, drinking some brews, puffing on frajos, on the strings and cords with their liras serenading the ladies with their romantics, or singing their sadness to the night.
A sad but happy hard life they lived, their days and nights were always filled with laughter, but filled with tears as well.
Their sad souls, their rough faces, their strong defiant and valiant attitude towards hardship, their commitment to one another, it all was watched and learned from, it all was deposited on the hearts and minds of the next generation who witnessed them, and the next generation tried to duplicate it all, in their own version, during their own growing up times.

Dirt streets criss-crossed the neighborhoods, a clear sign to outsiders that they'd entered the poor side of the town.
That’s what they were originally, isolated little villages on the outskirts of the society-in-charge of business and politics.
Poor little enclaves called Barrios and Colonias, soon to be marked for destruction by city planners and the wheels of time.
Nevertheless, the Low-Down Raza from the Poor-Sides grew ever stronger in the Califas style that sparked up the humble rebel-in-them.
They got into car clubs, picked up motorcycles, dressed down and hit the dancehalls.
They blazed up and hanged out with the crowd, kicking it at the corner, at the park or at the pool hall.
The times kept bringing on fast changes to the Barrios.
The music sounds, the fashion trends, the city landscape, the population mix., everything and all; the tic tocs of creeping time moving them fast-forward into the future, not giving much chance for the younger generations to fully grasp things from the old side of the fence, and so they adopted what they could, and disguised the new..
Raza Loca de Califas they became, first Pachucos, then Cholos, and now Brown Pride Gangsters!

American Gangsterism captivated and seduced the Vatos Locos, one generation after another.
Just like the rest from all over the Brown Nation of Aztlan, they carried inside their veins the fiery blood of a warrior past, and so they created their modern tribes, their modern neighborhood clans.
Their attitude remained the same ole one, that of a Mexican trapped inside America.
Mexico forgot about them, and America denied them.
Not from here, nor from there, they found themselves as from neither one;
And so they went about in creating their own little countries in the form of Varrios..
They gave their allegiance, and devoted themselves to one another, backing each other against any and all enemies.
As time went by, little by little, they built up their own sub-culture.
They transformed their dress code to conform to the flamboyant look;
They re-invented the English and Spanish language and applied a slang version to their everyday talk.
El Vato Loco drapped himself with the gangster image of the American Roaring 20s and 30s, but a-la-Mexican version.
Rebels of society who strolled around, and rolled around, defining their space, marking their territory, establishing their borders.
Going places, they’d run into hassles.
Rumbles and throwing down with others from around near-by became the thing.
Soon, street warfare between Brown Raza replaced fighting for racial space, and soon enough, the Varrios became fully focused on each other.
Their rivalries rose to a level of hatred and violence for which there is no end in sight.
The toe to toe, the fists and kicks gave way to knives and chains;
Knives and chains in turn gave rise to guns and rifles;
And now automatics and high-power calibers reign supreme.
What was once about your street, your friends, your space in this great little big world, became ever more encroached upon by new streets and new faces, faces with new ideas and aspirations for life.

The old nostalgia is becoming but a faded memory, seldom remembered in the concrete jungle rat-race.
Thee rat-race virus, unstoppable in its invasion and corruption of a vato's soul!

The SOxBAY first crazy vatos are lost to recorded history.
Few records exist other than a few newspaper articles pertaining to “criminal” activity.
The rest comes from a few old heads that can tell you the tales from the hood in small talk personal conversation.
But it is said that amongst the first to organize into what later gave rise to the Varrios of today, are said to be those like THEE IMPERIALS from Imperial Beach, the VULTURES from San Ysidro, and the ANCHOR BOYS from National City.
A later generation like the COACHMEN from Sidro, and the YATOS from Otay are credited to be from the actual generation that cliqued up and formed the Varrios as we know them today..

IMP13, IMPERIAL
SYR, SIDRO
O13, OTAY
OTNC, VIEJO
VLPR, PALMAS
VCV, CHULA VISTA
DSR, DEL SOL
and NST, NESTOR

are listed as the oldest of the SOxBAY.

These SOxBAY Varrios like others from other parts of the County and State, were able to maintain themselves old-school and traditional;
Each one was able to keep their locals united, and each new Varrio clique gave their first allegiance to the Varrio, the clique came second!

The SOxBAY varrios were able to keep it together like that for several decades, all the way up to the late 1970s.
But by then, several factors had begun to take a toll on their little nations.
The freeway system was built over Barrio lands, destroying whole sections of the neighborhoods, creating physical barriers and divisions between their communities.
Palm City, Chula Vista, National City, Nestor and San Ysidro were the hardest hit by the criss-crossing freeway system.
New housing developments and commercial business complexes arose here and there and everywhere.
The population growth brought tons of new faces and skin shades, and different attitudes to the sacred grounds.
The later trolley line further added a boundary for some.

Whereas before all the locals from each Varrio started out in the same Elementary school and Junior High;
Now, there were many different schools in each town.
The nostalgia of the Old Times had passed and the new sounds, the new garb, the new rides, new trends, new this, new that and new everything propagated by the media and Hollywood in full partnership with business entrepreneurs, had propelled the younger minds into a wide diversity of styles.
The 1980s killed the old and propelled the Varrios into a new era, an era with few rules and deviant attitudes.
Too many vatos going in all different directions, and too many vatos coming in from other places making the SOxBAY their stomping grounds.
Vatos from other SD areas, vatos from LOS, vatos from Tijuas and Mexico, vatos from all over have come down over the years and added their differences to the mix.

The Varrios remain still as one, but the Barrios themselves are far from that.

Law enforcement took its toll on the Varrios as well.
An abundance of resources were put into play..
Once an area was targeted for “clean up” ..
so many Homies began to get locked up for long ass years at a time;
Thus leaving less and less solid vatos on the streets to demonstrate some ole school clecha and recruit.

The effects of so many changes became something of a free-for-all for vatos to go about it any which way that suited them best.
Rockers, Party Crews, Taggers, Stoners, Rock-A-Billy’s and others pulled people away from the Varrios;
And the once huge numbers a Varrio pulled, dropped down big time.
The many new crews that sprung up bordering on the old streets..
in time also gave rise to their own new Treces.

And..

After all is said and done, suffice to say that even with all that heavy chet that has come down on these old grounds..

~> the Old Varrios continue to come out strong..
Defying it all:

Including time itself!

Can’t no one claim that the SOxBAY / SOxSIDE can’t hang with the best..
Because they are from The Best!

From an OLD GUARD of BARRIOS that transcends the decades!

DEDICATED TO THEE OLD SOxBAY VARRIOS . . .

PUT THEM UP


TODO CYCO!

237 comments:

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Anonymous said...

SUR SAN DIEGO

KPC13 GANG

LA PALOMAR

I QUE ?

Anonymous said...

Anyone now what happened to Midnight from VCV and Camel from Imperial? Late 80'/early 90's. Homies were solid.

Anonymous said...

I don't know where some of these vatos get their info from. VCV was never or is not clicked up with Imperial. They beef. VCV was never or is clicked up with Palmas FH. VCV used to kick it with Sidro back in the days. Don't know if they still do.

Anonymous said...

As for Brandywine 13, they were always very small and as far as I know are defunct know. And about them putting in work...they did so in the pen. One solid vato was holding the keys on a level 4.

Anonymous said...

FCW was handing Nestor the blues in the 80s and 90s. Homie is right. It was because they were banging on junior high and high schoolers. I remember one FCW scrub banging on junior high schoolers from VCV. I remember when FCW and that obese walrus DJ (as in disk jockey) were jumping junior high kids at a punker concert in Chula Vista. UBS was never part of INSANE FAMILY. It was Insane Diego Mob (Filipinos and Guamanians), FCW, and S3P Bloods (Black, PR's, Filipinos).

Anonymous said...

OTNC only rode in the Sur Bay car for a short time. I have also seen a couple of OTNC vatos with South Bay placas. National City has there own car in the county because they are that deep. OTNC - Acre Boys - NC Locos - Block Boys - NC Mob. All gangs in NC claim Southwest San Diego or just The City.

Anonymous said...

Another thing about Brandywine 13. Some homies think they were a clicka of East Side Longos. They never were but they got kickstarted by some Longeros that moved to Chula Vista. They named their first clicka "Playboys" out of Respect for ESL Playboys who kickstarted them. The other BW 13 clicka was "Locos." I won't go into details about Peanut from ESL here but I read several stories on the internet. They pretty much are true. From time to time a cop will go to websites and ask how Peanut died or what varrio did it. They are fishing for clues because as far as I know the case was never solved.

Anonymous said...

About VCV and OTNC. They been beefing since the days of Thee Mutes (NC) and Thee Midnighters (CV) back in the zoot suit era. OTNC beefs with VCV and PH almost as much as LHTS and ST. VCV and NC Acre Boys and NC Locos also kick up dust with each other.

Anonymous said...

Ha Southeast Lokos. Forgot them fools had a clicka in the SUR BAY! Those vatos were hitters. Too bad the most notorious member ended serving multiple life sentences. I met him and a few others at a house party in Shelltown just before shit kicked off between them and some Concheros from Gamma Boys. That particular vato was destined for greatness until he fucked his life up. From the streets they say one of the heads is the pen for a homicide in the late 90s he didn't commit and he is not snitching. He was part of the hunger strikes at Pelican Bay. He is coming up for parole in 3 years and I wish the best for him as I met him once and seemed cool and level headed. He was trying to council youth to stay out of gangs.

Anonymous said...

It's funny because some hater keeps saying VCV leads the way with peace treaties because they had a treaty with Imperial "who has a treaty with Del Sol." VCV and Del Sol never had love for each other because of a well known incident at a party in Del Sol's hood the 80s.

Anonymous said...

Homies got it right about Clarence Street. They did take in hood hoppers and that's why they didn't last (besides the snitching).

Anonymous said...

Ha! Homie said "since when is 1 street considered a barrio?" Go to LA fool. SD born and raised but LA is on a whole other level.

Anonymous said...

"SD cant touch LA. Even IE and OC bang harder than SD."

Yeah right. SD and LA got their own programs. If this were true LA varrios would be all over SD.

Clarence ST is gone. Shutdown by Nestor, Imperial, and disowned for snitching.
Varrio 213 is gone. Shutdown by VCV
King Kobras is gone. Shutdown by VCV
Young Crowd is gone. Shutdown by VCV
18th Street is gone. Shutdown by Otay and VCV
East Side Longos is gone. Shut down by a solid varrio
Tepa 106th Street is gone. Shut down by OTNC.
Comptone Tokers is gone. Shut down by Logan Heights

Members of other varrios put on quiet time by VCV, Otay, and OTNC in the South Bay:
Gardena 13
North Hollywood Locos
The Bratz
Comptone Varrio 70
Watts Varrio Grape Street


Anonymous said...

About LOD:

Indio is from Varrio San Ysidro.
Mike Ski is from Diabetesville
I think one was from S3P

Last I heard Indio is in the pen. I hope the best for him.

Anonymous said...

Sidro getting put on blast for tagging Sidrenos X3. Never happened. Sidro is a well respected varrio and earned the 13 along time ago. That's just ridiculous talk son.

Anonymous said...

"Syko posse was a notorious gang that terrorized the streets of the south bay in the late 80s and early 90s.they put sidro and diablos through hell."

You gotta be joking me. A second rate gang that had to join forces with two other gangs just to get back up to ask for change at the 7-11 on Palm and Hollister. You never put Sidro through hell. In fact you paid rent for staying in their hood.

Anonymous said...

"VCV is to me the lamest hood. Out of the whole bunch my respects go to bullet hes a firme ass fool. On the other hand lames like puppet, silly and wacko are as lame as it gets."

OG Puppet (80s/early 90s) was solid so I guess you are talking about some other vato. VCV has it's ups and downs mainly because they heads keep getting torcido all the time. They always had a good name on the streets (unless you are a rival), in the pen (RIP Indio, Big Chato), and south of the border. It's like Nestor, VCV gets a bunch of haters. I got respect to both those varrios and all other SUR in SD.

Anonymous said...

"I understand that they're ur enemies but theres no need for posting lies on here like that ese"

Firme words homie. Respecto.

Anonymous said...

"Which South Bay varrios throws up the baddest block letras on the walls?"

OTAY and SIDRO!!! VCV and OTNC is close.

Anonymous said...

"FCW Fucked themselves when LiL Happy started tagging X3 at the end of FCW. Then the rest of them started doing it. That spelled the beggining of the end for them. PERIOD! I don't give a fuck what anyone says I grew up with those fools and I know the truth!"

Then you would know that Happy and other Locos stayed on the mainline when the Luz was given out. Happy and the others were given the OK to start up IRIS because they didn't rank out. RIP Happy.

Anonymous said...

"When FCW fools started hitting the main yard in the pintas a lot of FCW's would lie and say they were from other hoods just to not get checked! " This is true except for the some raza and a couple of Filipinos that got the blessing to start up Iris. They stayed on the line after the Luz was called and earned their place. Others went to PC yards or Mule Creek.

Anonymous said...

"Yes Nestor has been around for a long time now." Since the OG Locos click in the 1970s.

Anonymous said...

"KALLExPALOMAR LOKOTES" What??????????

Anonymous said...

"wasn't KPLS (Kalle Palomar) going by "Kastle Park" Locos not that long ago?" What??????????

Anonymous said...

"INSANE FAMILY may not be active...but we aint dead.
You aint my set - you aint my friend. period.

I N S A N E x F A M I L Y
South San Diego
Yoggs dawgg"Sicc Loco"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Anonymous said...

"wow what a trip..people talk about being taggers and being from a neighborhood..so what? its been like that for years. i remember a dude from SADK-157 that was also from IDM...funny thing is- both SADK and insane family had the south on lock for a while"

SADK or "Search and Destroy Klan," or "Suck a Dick Klan" never had South Bay on Lock . HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Neither did IDM. I always say Filipinos are Asian Mexicans (or maybe we are Mexican Asians?). Truth be told, I love them like raza because we got similar backgrounds and their hynas are firme like ours. South Bay has always been on lock by 13.

Anonymous said...

"I didnt say WSLS was a crew. I said Bayfront is a clika of SBWSLS. I lived in that hood when some fool from ESNC got the blessing to start up West Side Lokos X3. After they started up the first clicka Sea Vale Street popped up. Then they started tagging up SB WSLS so they wouldn't be confused with WSSD and the OG WSLS from Los Angeles."

Some "fool: from ESNC and relocated members of WSLS from LA got the blessing. They don't have connections to the LA originals though.

Anonymous said...

"LMAO - after 20 plus years that INSANE FAMILY's still got chumps flappin' their cocksuckers...sideline cheerleading ho's still got hurt feeling's.
IDMOBBxFOURCORNERSxINSANE FAMILY1stx"

I think it's because homies are setting the record straight. IDM was and is irrelevant.

Anonymous said...

"Anyone now what happened to Midnight from VCV and Camel from Imperial? Late 80'/early 90's. Homies were solid."

I hope a VCV'ero chimes in to confirm. I heard Midnight got into the dope game and died in a deal gone bad. Camel from Imperial...never heard of him.

Anonymous said...

KPC never went by "kastle park locos" that's a none factor. this small neighborhood started off in the early 2000s in the "Harborside Barrio" they took on the name "KALLE PALOMAR" do to being the main Street that runs across the whole neighborhood .

Anonymous said...

Imperial dukes El wicked right here saying fuck diablos I did ten years and never ran into anybody from that lame ass hood from Los .just another wannabee Clarence street gang or club

Anonymous said...

Fuck Chester's

Anonymous said...

FuK DIAPERS
SSDX3
SBFK

Anonymous said...

Shit.... it was I who Got the GL from prison.... took it to the streets 2003 and Turtle GLKS recruited Malo and Loko as the first 2 SBLS....

Anonymous said...

Barrix DelSxL RuffNecks gaxga fuck my enemies esse Sur San Diego come out n play ball. pussys

Anonymous said...

crazy barrio del sol gang y que enemies never out hahaha puro RuffNecks clicka ese y que caile to the blk

Anonymous said...

This foo forgot the BIGGEST and BADDEST VARRIO in the SOUTH BAY! VARRIO SOUTH SAN DIEGO 13 SOUTH BAY FK CONTROLAMOS TODOS! THE REAL SOUTH BAY LOCOS AND SSD. FUCK ALL OF OUR ENEMIGAS AND WHOEVER ELSE WANTS IT WITH THAT BIG BAD ASS SSD GANG! PALOMAR STREET TO EGGER HIGHLANDS TO J STREET MOTHA FUCKERS!!!

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