SAN DIEGO VARRIOS
SY ~ SYR
SAN YSIDRO
A.k.a. “SIDRO”
Klikas . . .
Coachmen
Enanos
Villa Locos
Locotes
Tiny Locos
Lil Locos
Malos
Boys
Note: For some of SIDRO's history read up on the March 17, 2007 "Archives".
IMP ~ IMP13
IMPERIAL 13
A.k.a. Imperials
Klikas . . .
Dukes
Rascals
BWL ~ BWLS
BRANDYWINE LOCOS
O13 ~ OX3 ~ VLO
OTAY 13A.k.a. Varrio Loco Otay
Klikas . . .
Yatos
Del Sol Riders
River Bottom Locos
Montgomery Locos
Rasta Locos
DS ~ DSR ~ DS13
DEL SOLKlikas . . .
Vagos
Malos
Dead Ends
Riders Locos
Sun City Locos
RC ~ RCLS ~ SSR
RUFF CITYA.k.a. South Side Roughnecks
A.k.a. Rough Riders
CALS
Crazy Ass Locos
PALS
Palm Avenue Locos
PALS
Palm City Locos
FH ~ PC ~ PC’FH
PALM CITY FROM HELL
A.k.a. Familia Hispana
Klikas . . .
Locos
VLPR
LAS PALMAS
Varrio LAS PALMAS was an old varrio located in the South San Diego neighborhood of Palm City. The old varrio extended south of the Otay River marshland area, all the way to Coronado Avenue, centered around Palm Avenue and Harris Avenue. The neighborhood once reached as far west to 19 Street (present day Saturn Blvd). The old varrio was in time first broken up with the construction of Interstate 5, which was built right through the middle of the neighborhood and sliced it up into two halves. The western part of the varrio (west of I-5) was almost completely torn down and new development was raised up. Then when the San Diego Trolley line was built, another chunk of its neighborhood was destroyed. The Trolley line itself cut the varrio in half again. On the east side of the tracks new housing now stands. But on the west side of the tracks there still remains plenty of unpaved (dirt) streets even to this day. South of Palm Avenue the grounds there exhibit a mix of older homes and newer apartment buildings south along the back streets from Harris Avenue. Varrio Las Palmas survived all the way up to the very early 80s, but it has now given way to the younger generation of Raza that claims Palm City From Hell (Familia Hispana). In its final days, one could see nice firme big block Old Stilo Placasos on the walls as you rode past on the freeway or the trolley line. Further south along the 19 Street neighborhood, west of the I-5, La Raza gave birth to the Varrio NESTOR 19ST, in what was once inhabited by vatos that claimed South San Diego. From west of the I-5 and south of Palm Avenue, Varrio NSTR (Nestor Nineteenth STreet Rifa) governs the land.
NST ~ NSTR ~ NST19
NESTOR 19 STREET
VIA
Varrio Iris Avenue
DML
DAIRY MART LOCOS
SSD ~ DX3 ~ D13 ~ DBS
SOUTH SIDE DIABLOSA.k.a. Chamukos
VCV
VARRIO CHULA VISTA
Klikas . . .
Grande Locos
Tiny Locos
Tiny Gangsters
E STreet
G STreet
H STreet
K STreet
South Bay 13
WSLS
WEST SIDE LOCOS
YESCA 13
You have to go back in time to remember the vatos that claimed YESCA 13. Back in the mid to late 70s these vatos where claiming ESxNC. They had their spot just north of the ACRE BOYS and west of PARADISE HILLS, over by Lanoitan Avenue. I don't think they're around anymore.
ES’NCLS
East Side NATIONAL CITY LOCOS
OTNC
OLD TOWN NATIONAL CITY
Klikas . . .
Gatos
Night Owls
Anchor Boys
Olden Boys
Enano Boys
Latino Boys
Insane Boys ~> broke off.
IBS ~ WS’NC
INSANE BOYS
A.k.a. West Side National City
BBS ~ NC’BBS
BLOCK BOYS
(Alta Vista neighborhood)
ABS
ACRE BOYS
(Lincoln Acres)
ALLEY BOYS
(Norton Avenue Boys)
SSC
SOUTH SIDE CRIMINALS
NC MOB 13
NATIONAL CITY MOB 13
A.K.A. South Side Mob 13
MB13 ~ MBLS
MISSION BAY LOCOS
Klikas . . .
Grand Avenue Boys
Delrey Street Boys
132 Dead End
Hazard
The Magicians Club
CMR ~ CLMT WEST CLARAS
(Clairemont)
LV13 ~ LVR ~ VLV
VARRIO LINDA VISTA
Klikas . . .
Morley Street
Rascals
Peewees
Riders
Tiny Locos
WT ~ WxT
WOP TOWN
Klikas . . .
Krazies
Amici Park
OTSD
OLD TOWN SAN DIEGO
LM26 ~ GH13
LOMAS 26 STREETA.k.a. Golden Hill
Klikas
Locos (The Alley)
XVI STreet
XVIII Sreet
XXX STreet
Juniors (Chicos)
Dukes
Malditos
Note: For some of LOMAS history, read up on the March 2, 2006 "Archives".
SM ~ VSM ~ BSM
BARRIO SHERMANA.K.A. Sherman Heights
Klikas . . .
27 STREET
20 STREET
Grant Hill Park Locos
Note: For some of SHERMAN's history, read up on the March 10, 2006 "Archives".
SE13 ~ SESD
SOUTHEAST 13
A.k.a. South East San Diego
ESD ~ ESSD
EAST SIDE SAN DIEGOA.k.a. East Side Diego
Klikas . . .
Gatos
Rascals
Chicos
Dead End Locos
AEK
Avenue Euclid Klika
EBS ~ EBK
Evil Boys Klika
East Side 27 Street Locos
JRS ~ JRS13
JUNIORS
VC13
VARRIO CHOLLAS 13
VM ~ VMS ~ VML ~ VMP
VARRIO MARKET STREETKlikas . . .
Locos
Peewees
VEL ~ ENC13
VARRIO ENCANTO LocosA.k.a. Encanto Heights
LH ~ LHTS
LOGAN HEIGHTSKlikas . . .
Red Steps
A.k.a. Barrio Logan30’TA
33 STreet
35 STreet
13 Locos
LH CLIKA (East Side)
Old . . .
32 LUCKIES
Cherries
Chicanos
Osos
Lobos
Coyotes
Toros
Note: For some of the RED STEPS history, read up on the March 4, 2007 "Archives".
32ND STREET “TOKERS”
LVR ~ LV13 ~ LV70 ~ ESL
LOMITA VILLAGEA.k.a. Lomita Varrio 70
(East Side Lomita)
Klikas . . .
PH ~ PHR ~ PH13
PARADISE HILLS
LG13 ~ VLG
VARRIO LEMON GROVE
OPLS
OAK PARK LOCOS
AZN ~ CHTS
AZTEC NATION(City Heights)
Klikas . . .
Van Dyke Boys
VST ~ STR ~ ST38
SHELL TOWNKlikas . . .
Gamma Boys
38 STreet
DSL
DIVISION STREET LOCOS
SVL
SPRING VALLEY LOCOS
EL CAJON DUKES
EL CAJON LOCOS
PSL ~ PZL ~ VPL
VARRIO POSOLE
Varrio POSOLE, sometimes spelled Pozole, is a real old varrio that dates back to the 1920s. This varrio is well known and heard about through out Califas and in la torcida. Posole is said to be in their sixth or seventh generation of vatos representing their terreno. From old times the initials for the varrio were PSL and PZL, but in these later tiempos the initials VP, VPL and VPLS for Varrio Posole Locos are being used. The olden varrio is located right before you hit Camp Pendleton, immediately east of Interstate 5 and north of Mission Avenue; just south of the old San Luis Mission Road (present day 76 Expressway), centered around Balderama Park. Their borders today can be said to extend all the way south to Oceanside Blvd, and east all the way to Mesa Road. Posole claims East Side because they are in what back in them times was considered the east side of Oceanside.
TCS ~ CSG
TWENTY CENTER STREETA.k.a. Center Street Gang
SOUTH SIDE OCEANSIDE
VST ~ VSL
VARRIO SUREñO TOWN
A.k.a. Varrio Sureño Locos
EAST SIDE OCEANSIDE(Crown Heights)
PPLS
POCOS PERO LOCOS
LOS JOKERS
WOS
WICKED OCEANSIDE SUREñOS
TRI-CITY LOCOS
EG
EDEN GARDENSA.k.a. La Colonia
EF
ENCINITAS FLATS
ENC13
ENCINITAS 13South Side Locos
CBR ~ CBLS ~ CLS
CARLSBAD LOCOS
SSV
SOUTH SIDE VISTA
VH ~ VHB
VISTA HOMIESA.k.a. Vista Homeboys
SM ~ VSM
VARRIO SAN MARCOSKlikas . . .
Wolfpack
SL ~ SxL
Varrio SOUTH LOS
FBLS ~ VFLS
VARRIO FALLBROOK LOCOS
VM ~ VML
VARRIO MESA LOCOS
TH
THUNDER HILLS
EVD
ESCO VIEJO DIABLOS
ESCO SANTOS
VCG
VALLEY CENTRO GANG
WSG
WEST SIDE GANG
AVL
ALPINE VARRIO LOCOS
SANTEE ORIGINALS
VPL
VARRIO PEñASQUITOS LOCOS
Note: The San Diego Varrios and their Clikas
are listed in order to give recognition to them.
The list may not be 113% correct, therefore I
apologize for any mistakes made, for it is not
my intent to diss anybody or clown around. . .
Si salio mal esta madre, pues ponle unas letras
aqui ese.. Nobody knows it better than your own,
asi es que no cagues el palo and if you care to,
pues dejate caer con un aliviane ~ keep in mind~>
~> "Don't Be A Net'Banger" . . . This sitio ain't
made for that ese . . . So keep it level minded.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 1021 Newer› Newest»old town san diego kick it in the alley behind hortencia liqour store !thats where they all live!hortencia street,congress street,san diego avenue!las brasas taco shop is the main eating spot!
a bunch of the homies moved to east side !thats why its hit up over there!
old town san diego 13
presidio park x3 ppx3
little gangsters LGS
locos ls
Hows That Barrio Old Town San Diego Life
Hey I live in the North County (thats ESCO) Anybody got any history on the varrios of Escondido,San Marcos,Vista,Encinitas,ect. I grew up around these towns and watched them slowly changed into cities. There seems to be a lot new varrios forming over the years in these cities. I used to remember in my younger days there was even a tagbanger group in ESco called Alcoholics Brown Krew (ABK) Anybody? Mr. Lonewolf?
Mush respect and strength to all...
can somebody tell me about how deep is OTSD?
Westside Sandiego is made up of 5 old nieghborhoods which are Old Town Sandiego {OTSD] WopTown {WT} Linda Vista {LV} Mission Bay {MB} and Clairemont {CLMT}. Most of these nieghborhoods have been having chicano gangs in them since the 40's and 50's and 60's and there used to be peace treaties with in every nieghborhood,but eventully they broke and there was pedo.OTSD and WT fought eachother and LV,MB and CLMT fought eachother
Back in the days Linda Vista and Mission Bay had a peace treaty and both fought against Clairemont a much bigger gang at the time the peace between Mission Bay and Linda Vista only lasted about 16 years and then they both went at war with eachother,as for Old Town they began to go at it with Linda Vista and Wop Town went at it with Mission Bay it was kind of OTSD and MB against LV and WT and it has been like this since the early 80's. CLMT went on the low one and wernt heard of until the mid 90's when they came out they were bangn
Sur 13 CLMT and the rest of the WSD hoods werent cool so they all went at war with CLMT except for WT they stayed out of it and are pretty much cool with CLMT.Now you can still find WS CLMT but the area is mostly bangin Sur 13. CLMT territory expands from all of west clairemont blvd to madison high with in those borders you'll find many CLMT tags especially in North Clairemont park and the alleys that intersect genesse avenue and clmt mesa blvd.But much of south clmt has members of the Mission Bay Riders aka BR livin through out that area Clairemont Drive and Balboa Avenue.If you head south of genesse and make a right in Linda Vista road you'll find your self in Linda Vista. Linda Vista's territory are through out the many projects surrounding LVP {linda vista park} and mainly Morley street there main block.Back then LV13 controlled the streets of LV untill the mid 80's when the black residents of LV formed LVC aka Linda Vista Crips they did not bang WSD they banged NS Linda Vista
not north side sandiego but north side of linda vista. There enemys were the LV13 members and WSC {westside crips} and MB13 members. They avoided problems from OTSD,WT and CLMT.If you keep on heading south you'll be in OTSD. this is also a old varrio in sd history. when much of oldtown was made into a historical land mark many of the mexican familys were relocated to Eastside sd and the mexican familys in WopTown were relocated to Spring Valley.And for the MB13 story much of it is said a couple comments up. well thats it for that big Westside Sandiego any questions? WT13 MB13 CLMT13 OTSD13 LV13 grande gangs WSD13
Lonewolf, I have seen a lot of graffiti that read LW usually in green paint, do you tag this. I also see sometimes LWK, I am thinking that this probably means LW killer. YES or NO.
Please foolio ~> do I sound like someone that needs to go out and write LW on the walls?
hahahahahahah homeboy up there, LW is a graffiti crew and it has multiple names just like all the other graff crews. and it doesnt mean "killer" everytime theres a K at the end of something. im sure thats just mostly a black thing.
ey LoneWolf let me kno the next time you go out tagging so i can follow you and write a K next to it hahahahahahaha
olttown san diego. isnt that were all the torists go?the bazaar del mundo and all i see is restarants and it is not gettoe ther. why does you have a gang homeboy.? igo there walot with my falmily. i never seen gangsters
LV "SUR13" TLS LS MORLEY ST PWS RASKALS WS"SD CONTROLA!
LINDA VISTA
Little boy, tell me WHERE on Hortencia Street did you grow up on? There are NOTHING but multi-million dollar homes and that's it. How in the hell did you grow up on Hortencia Street? No seriously, entertain us. For you must have us confused with other ignorant Wannabe pendejos, but you can't fool an old timer. I just got done getting some lunch at the Coyote Cantina, on your so called main strip (LOL!), filled with nothing but gabachos and plasticos from other cities and countries, those tour buses, and lots of gift shops. I decided to swing out to Hortencia Liquor, and head out back. I walked to the rec center, and saw a group of old ladies running a senior basketball game. I looked up and down the alley and guess what? NOT A HOUSE OR AN APARTMENT for MILES. And no, you can not claim regentrification as a reason for your so called home not being there anymore, because the business park located adjaecent to the alley has been there since 1993. FACT.
So please Lonewolf, let this post make its way out there. For if it is one thing that must be shown it is fake gangsters propping up a hood. Claiming OTSD is the EQUIVALENT of someone claiming Downtown Disney or Universal City Walk. Now if you want to go Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack and give me some history, then go for it. But I'll tell you what, and most vatos in ALL of San Diego who go enjoy some tragos after work in Old Town can voucher for, those OTSD tags started to show up about 5 years ago. I talked with my homeboys mom who waitresses at Casa Guadalajara and introduced us to the cook. We went outside for a frajo break and when we brought up the OTSD tags on the trash bin he cursed out his own cooks and dishwashers. A group of dishwashers that gather after all the tourists have gone home and the restaurant is closed who smoke a little yeska and drink 40s. So there. That is the real deal on your hood. Stop fronting and acting like your Varrio is all that and hard. I encourage ANYONE to google Old Town San Diego, even go on Google VIRTUAL maps and show me ONE piece of a corner that looks like a Varrio to you. What do you say now little boy that you have been exposed?
ALL RESPECTS to ALL CLICKS and VARRIOS. But this one is a front.
OTSD//OTNC
Oldtown sd and Oldtown nc are really old barrios that bang the westside of there area.Long ago OTSD and OTNC used to be clicked up and they banged OT"T"NC which stood for Oldtown to National City
this to broke of but they did not turn into enemys in fact they hang out with eachother and both put it down for westside.Some say why do they band west if there in the south? its because they made enemys with VCV,OM,IMP and SY which all banged SSD and they began to bang southwest sandiego which is really not known but towards the 80's they really started writing westside nc and not swxsd.But keep in mind they arnt wsxsd
LW is a taggin crew it stands for
"lyrical writers" and the k they add in the ends stands for Krew not killer
You guys can read up on Old Town San Diego (the tourist spot) and not the gang on this website. Read up on the history.
www.oldtownsandiego.org
www.oldtownsandiegoguide.com
No. You are wrong. The reason why it is OLD TOWN NATIONAL CITY is that National City is designated as a historic town in California. You can see the sign right on Plaza Blvd. It says "WELCOME TO NATIONAL CITY. AN OLD TOWN, CALIFORNIA." It has it;s own symbol. As a matter of fact, if you google Old Town National City, and scroll past the injunction, you will come across an EHC study that talks about Old Town National City. There are many houses in Naitonal City that are part of the Historic Natural Registry. The sign is posted in blue. I will take a picture and send it to Lonewolf sometime this week for verification. Old Town National City has nothing to do with Old Town San Diego. Homeboy, beleive me, with all due respect, I am not hating, but the topic of Lonewolf's bog is for accounts of historical information on Varrios, and I am contributing with clarification. By all means, if you beg to differ you have all the right to. We have numerous ways nowadays to prove otherwise. But come with it. This is what we are here to do. Discuss. And please, let me know what year you saw OTTTNC tags up. I am 32 years old homeboy. I have done time and have family in National City, from the old Clickas that don't exist anymore, to the Block Boys and Olden Boys. I have worked in Old Town San Diego, and go after work for tragos and Happy Hour. I play ball every now and then at the courts behind the liquor store. So please, if you can counter my info, go right ahead. I welcome it. It may teach me something. Respects and ALRATO.
And National City IS West Side. Look at all the harbor front. The City is between the 5 freeway (COAST with all THE WATER ON THE RIGHT SIDE. EVERYONE SEES IT GOING TO TJ) and the 805. So if the ocean isn't WEST. What is?
dam foo i bet you another paisa from levas!all yo homies roll wit the paisas when u get locked up ese!i remember when i went to twain we had yo homies on the run !instead of eating lunch food yo moms brought you fools some fukn frijoles wit tortillas!lol and foo come in back of hortencia liqour dawg!we will see wats up!if you fools think you got the skill come put your so called work in!!!!!!i live on the peach colored apartments in back of hortencia liqour ! hortencia street foo!!!!!old town san diego locotes clicka!and dont trip we go to yo lame ass hood every night!!!!we see noting but paisas wearing lv hats and when they get hit up they act like they dont speak english and claim that the lv stands for las vegas!!!!chapete ass fools!!!!!i bet you saw my hit up in that stupid alley down kelly!!!
why do you go to the museams!!!!go to the other side of my hood foo!!!u know how we do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
to who ever is askin how deep isa my hood!my hood is deep enough to take on any haters that try to step up!!!!just to give you a hint we way passed over 100 right now!!!!wat up to all my lil homies puttin it down in juvi,campo,barret!and to the older heads in the pen in pelican bay much love big g's!
otsd mmain enemies are linda vista,wop town,east side!!!!!!!but als wit north park,logan,city hieghts juniors,iris avenue,el cajon,!!!and also fukn haters that try to act sicc!
well im not gonna take sides on this but there is actually a few very old and little houses over in old town. but only a few. i was just over there a couple days ago checkin it out and therse a couple of streets with a couple of these houses.. but i dont think think there is actually an active gang operating here. theres just not enough houses here i doubt all these houses hold gang members you know? but i do realize OTSD is a an old hood. so i dont doubt it went through some serious gentrification like its neighbors WopTown and i dont doubt theres foos bangin in from other locations but as far as being a strong or deep barrio AS OF TODAY? i dont think so. sure theres some hitups here and there and theres occasionally some foos chillin at presidio park but i think old town is more of the kick it spot for the vatos that are connected with its barrios history in one way or another. i think OTSD is like a ghosttown varrio. kinda like vPosole.
but i should note that i DO know a girl from Logan that dates a vato from OTSD and she said that he lived there all his life so..
and about the OTSD and OTNC thing. i think OTNC bangs WS because they are on the westside of national city. thats what ive heard from a girl whos old man was a OTNC veterano.
whats up with WSLSx3.where they at,i seen it hit up in the chula vista area.wheres their hood at?
and whats up with varrio chula vista(vcv,they ride on each other or what.i heard of those fools blasting each other,whats up with that,blasting at people from your own varrio.
The apartments connected to the Liqour store. Got it. YOu schooled me. I don't front. I was under the impression that those Arabs owned the apartments. I will head on over there for lunch today to get one of those bomb pastrami sandwhiches and talk to the store clerks and stroll around the back to the apartments. I'll even stroll with the homies to the alley to see you vatos after we got have some tapas and drinks on Friday. Tell some of your OG homies to be there too. I wanna see how old they are. You know, the ones who did time in "the bay". You will notice us homie. We work for TP Pennick Construction. A bunch of big vatos. Well be there to see what you little vatos have to say. Show me your "hood" and you'll have my respects.
DAMM!!! VATOS BE GETTING SERIOS IN HERE ABOUT THE SHIT . . HIJOLE HOLMES . . MY LONE IS GLAD I AIN'T OUT THERE NO MORE YOU KNOWS . . HE HE HE HE !!!!
EY, I KNOW OTSD BE STRIKING UP LATELY, AND I ALSO HEARD THAT THEY GO BACK A WAYS . . "I DON'T KNOW" . . I HOPED THIS VATO I KNOW WOULD COME THRU WITH HIS OLD 411 . . BUT HE'S GOT ISSUES RIGHT NOW AND LEFT ME HANGING . . SO WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?
IT MAY BE LIKE WOP TOWN WHERE THE WHOLE HOOD GOT HIT WITH SPECIAL INTERESTS QUE NO?
ANYWAYS THIS SITIO IS NOT ABOUT WHO'S THE BADDEST OR MAS CHINGON . . IT'S ABOUT "OUR VARRIOS" AND THEIR HISTORY!!
I APPRECIATE ALL YOU VATOS STEPPING OUT AND THROWING OUT THE KNOWLEDGE . . BUT LETS "ALL" TAKE A TIME OUT AND COME BACK OUT "REAL".
IN REGARDS TO OTNC . .
THAT'S AN OLD ASS VARRIO RIGHT THERE. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY CLAIM WEST SIDE BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF N.C.
NADA MAS, NI NADA MENOS ...
THEY DON'T CLAIM SOUTH BAY NOR SOUTH EAST BECAUSE NATIONAL CITY IS ALL THEY CARE ABOUT . .
IT'S ABOUT NC AS THEIR TOWN AND WEST SIDE IS WHERE THEY'RE AT!!
ALTOUGH THEM CLAIMING WEST SIDE IS NOT THAT OLD . . THAT ONLY GOES BACK TO A COUPLE OF DECADAS AT THE MOST, BUT NOT MUCH FARTHER THAN THAT.
I COULD BE WRONG THOUGH . .
SO EDUCATE MY FOLLIO DUMB ASS.
Like it or not OTSD is an old ass hood so being ingnorant is not going to solve anything like saying there's tourist or whatever.
Every hood in sd has its doubts about being "lame" or what ever.
Take Logan hts there's new apartment complexes surrounding chicano park,remember its right next door to downtown and what happened to woptown is now happening to logan hts,plus its getting expensive to live there,but then again thats happening to every sandiego hood
ither ghetto semi ghetto or not ghetto.but then again every varrio in sd that has a gang in it has its little "ghetto" side or brown side so keep that in mind
MISSION BAY 13 WESTSIDE 858 SD
oh yeah lone wolf you know how you have mission bay labeled as
"mission bay locos" locos are a click from mission bay not a gang i think you should put it down as
"varrio mission bay" or the "VMB"
and add the locos click up there
gracias.
VARRIO MISSION BAY GRAND AVE BOYS
OTTNC i saw tagged in OTSD back in
91' and saw it also writen in OTNC
and some one said it stood for
oldtown to national city OTTNC
remember is said back in the days not recently. and i have a quetion to the foo frm OTNC, are they cool with OTSD or are you guys enemys?
whats up with that big bad ass Varrio Loco Otay gang.i grew up right there,but had to move.hows Otay doing.thy putting in work or what.shit,i dont even know why im asking,everyone knows how loco otay is,always riding(ecspecially on CHANKLA).hahaha
fuck chupa verga!!!
Am From Old Town San Diego And No We Do Not Have Beaf With Old Town National City...West Up The Homie Pelon From National City Puro Old Town West Side Fuck Haterz
the south bay is doing it right now,on fire.those vatos r putting in work to the fullest.i was over there for a week visiting.i got hit up left and right,from national city to chula vista to otay.i got shot at at,almost got stuck twice.all in one fuck week.the south bays putting in work.
I do not disagree with Old Town being an old hood. It is the firstsite of the permanent spanish settlement. 1769.
You seem to be missing my point. I have grown up in San Diego all my life. My criticism is only to the joven who was banging his hood a few psots up. OTSD this and that. Ok, then, match it then homie. Where is the historia? Not about the Varrio, we can all internet that info. But about your click. And I am sorry, I am well aware of regentrification. All it does is displace certain activity. I know Woptown boys and the hood. They still kick it at Amici Park.
I go to Malenas on National and 30th every other Thursday. I know Logan gentrification as well. The homies work at L & L's barbecue at the new plaza where the old bread factory used to be.
Look, the bottom line is, explain how you came about, without all that false bullshit that can expose you in an instant. If you live in SD, go through Old Town. Tell me where you see a ghetto, one GOVERNMENT subsidized housing project (section 8, which DOES exist in the Rose Courts in Mission Bay and the red apartments in Linda Vista). Tell me who they put in work on, and WHO IS IN PELICAN BAY. We can all name ONE homie from the hood who is in the Bay. Can these dudes? That is all I am saying. A respected NATIONAL MONUMENT, CALIFORNIA HISTORICAL TOURIST ATTRACTION should not have a gang. And if so why? Who the fuck would want to be from BAZAAR DEL MUNDO? I stepped out of bounds, but with respect to Lonewolf, I will drop it. I spoke my peace. Now Mr. OTSD, come with knowledge for this pendejo who cannot find logic to your hood. Evoltuion dictates changes to a Varrio. Some clicks formed for protection. Others out of family. Clear the air here. -SIN VERGUENZA.
DON'T TRIP HOLMES, I'M NOT. IN FACT I APPRECIATE ALL THE GOOD BACK AND FORTH. IT GETS REAL INTERESTING WITH ALL THE ISTORIA COMING OUT QUE NO? YOU SEEM TO KNOW PLENTY AND LIKE YOU SAID ~> "COME WITH KNOWLEDGE". YOU WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO CHOP IT UP WITH JENTE LIKE BOOGIE FROM CLANTON OR MARTINEZ FROM THE LOTT, MAYBE EVEN G'BOY FROM THE FENCE AND A WHOLE TONELADA MORE DE HOMIES EN EL FORUM. THEM VATOS LES PASA ESTE PEDO DE LOS VARRIOS, SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED CLICK ON THE LINK AND SIGN UP. BUT BEFORE YOU HEAD IN THERE, MAKE SURE YOUR MACHINE HAS A GOOD SPAM BLOCKER FOR ALL THE STUPID ADDS THAT SCARE AWAY THE WEAK HEARTED TU SABES.
ORALE HOLMES, AQUI NO PASO NADA, SOLO ROLATE UN TOQUE AND PASS IT TO THE RIGHT ESE.
im goin to sleep my bad lonewolf next time im on this ill let u know my history BIG G!!!
Orale Lonewolf. I will head into that forum. Much appreciated. Cuidate.
WEST SIDE WOPTOWN KRAZY BOYS 13 IN THIS MUG OF PALABRAS RESPECT TO THE LIL HOMIES RUNNIN A MUCK ON THE STREETS AN RESPECT TO ALL THOSE WILLING AN DESERVING OF IT A BIG FUCK YOU TO ALL YOU LIL KIDS TALKIN SMACK COME INTO MY ALLY AN GET CRACKED MUCHO RESPECTO TO LONE WOLF FOR DOING HIS THING
Orale,
To the vato from Otay. I know your homeboys. Very firme vatos. They kick it with the vatos from West Side Locos 13 in Chula. I do know that those clickas be going at it big time. Crazy Jay from West Side Locos 13 is a firme vato too. To the Mission Bay vato, your homeboy Carlos is one of my peros too. I do see them on Grand Avenue. Que locotes son ellos! You got a lot of young crazy vatos from MB.
East Side San Diego historia:
East Side has been around as a Varrio since the 70's. I have some old photos of vatos and they were called the 40th Street Playboys Incorporated back in the day (80's). The oldest clicks are the Gatos and Nite Owls. you can see very old ES tags by the old Radio Tower down by the Fairmount blocks. There is one from 197o's that simply says "Mr. Cowboy and Mr. Lowdown." East Side Night Owls.
The old kick back spot used to be the old Pizza Hut on 38th and University Avenue, next to the old Circle K and Wherehouse music stores (whick all three no longer exist). They also kicked it at Hollywood Park.
The beef with GDP started in the late 80's. GDP was Get Down Posse and it was originally a party crew started by Roger and DJ Crush Creations. I still see Roger til this day. Well, they did originally get along with East Side, but for issues I am not familiar with, they broke off and started to bang. Some of the original members are Walo, Diablo (who just got out), Stormy, and Smiley (the Puerto Rican vato). As strange as it might sound, they merged with AEK and are now part of ES. Pinta Politics. I need to get off of the bossses laptop and head back onto the work site and get on that damn bobcat. I'll follow up later. One of the vatos on our team is an East Sider. He is fully Christian now, but he is about 40 and I will hit him up for some info and more historia. Cuidense.
vEASTSANDIEGOcalle43GANG1.
ESD EVILBOYS.
fuck jollyrancXhers aka jolleyrankers!
~Referring to the vato that posted East Side San Diego Historia~
You stated that the original name was 40th Street Playboys Incorporated? Did they happen to be clicked up or cool with the black crip gang EDM (East Dago Mob) also from the East San Diego area back in the days? EDM's were originally known as PBI (Playboys International) but changed it to EDM when they became crips. I ask this because of similarities in the names Playboys Incorporated and Playboys International.
As far as my understanding goes, East Dago Mob Playboy International is from the 80s, much much younger than the older Varrio East Side SD.
Ey, what about that old Varrio in Oceanside ~> Varrio CANTO NUEVO? Anybody has any history on them? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY USED TO BE OVER BY WHERE THE SAN LUIS REY COMMUNITY EXISTS NOWADAYS(?)
Lonewolf,
You are on point about ESD and PBI. They did hang out quite often. Hoover High School. Mid to late 80's. Then when the crip merger came, PBI fell out of favor. That's where my knowledge ends.
Dude from Woptown, I was posted up with Knockout, Bandit and Freaky from WTKBS some time this past summer. A cool bunch of dudes with some fine ass ladies. Much R's to them. I am out. Gotta get the carne ready for today's game. Which Charger team is going to show up? The Schitzophrenic Rivers, or the bad ass run you down LT and company? We'll see. Grab your Modelos, your yeska, kick back and watch the game. 1.5 hours till kick off. Orale Lonewolf. Good looking out on the Posts. alrato.
BOLTS took down the COLTS.
Next up ~> the PATSY'S.
EVERYBODY IN DIEGO ALL SPORTING THEIR POWDER BLUES AND BOLT LIDS. BIG HAPPY MASCARAS ON THEIR FACES.
Ey, what about that familia in Logan that has their whole pad painted with the BOLT colors, gold trim y todo.
DAMN, THAT'S SICK QUE NO?
oh whatt??
where at in Logan?
NCS is a really big grff crew in SD...would anybody mind telling me wat it stands for... and NCSK is NCS-krew, right?
ncs isnt that big. and theyr toys.
i dont know what it stands for but yes the k is for krew.
In WSSD it's a whole diffrent deal from SESD or ESSD because all the varrio's are seperated and there's big tension.To tell you the truth mexicans and blacks that live in Westside SD mainly live in LV,east MB and all of CLMT west and north and south mainly but you also got raza in the eastside of CLMT.Theres
many mexican illegals in these areas and many join gangs over here or start there own in WSSD. "Paisas" have been known to chase down gang members from Mission Bay with machetes or shovels or what ever they have.Same in LV and CLMT. Really theres no mexicans that live in OTSD or WT,but they still bang that area and there still down. You also got MS13 "paisas" in WSSD.
But those guys are your average looking mexican.
WEST BOUND LOCOS
Orale Lonewolf,
Glad to see a few new posts. Check this out, I noticed a dude post up about MS-13 In WSSD. Does anyone have any 411 on this thing? Never ran into them, and locked up I was told they weren't allowed to do business in SD. Then I hear they aren't officially MS-13, but paisas from Mexico that are rolling in aqui. Any one have some solid info or just hearsay? Gracias a todo.
And where the hell is West Bound Locos?
Lone wolf, I noticed you are from Varrio Rancho San Pedro. I knew a vato named O-Dogg from there, but he now lives here in SD too. He has a RSP tat on his left forearm. Cool ass dude too. He lived in North Park off of Texas Street.
You vatos don't get along with San Pedro Parque, que no? And what about Varrio Al Capones? I know this isn't the place, so I'll wrap it up and put it overin the LA Varrios area. Disculpa to all the SD homies. My bad.
Nel ese, no soy de Rancho SP. I do know plenty of Raza from RSP and from all the San Pipas cliques. I spent quite a few years down there, so I know the grounds plenty. I don’t know O-Dogg, is he from RSP or from the 2 ND Street Projects? San Pedro Parque? Never heard of that holmes? There’s PARK WESTERN LOMA SAN PEDRO & LELAND PARK SAN PEDRO, and RANCHO PARK in the Projects on Second & Centre Street, but I don’t know of any “San Pedro Parque”?
ALCAPONE is old school East Los over by Aliso Village in Boyle Heights. There not there anymore, although there’s a few heads still living up by Prospect Park in Brooklyn Heights, over by the old Brooklyn Avenue which was re-named Cesar Chavez. There’s more in the SGV over by Azusa, but the old guard is mostly all gone and the rest just watching the wheels go ‘round tu sabes.
In regards to MS13, maybe it’s just MARKET STREET 13 que no? The only Mara’s I know of, are down there in Tijuas doing hits and runs for the locals, but they ain’t no Varrio and they ain’t no force of their own as far as I know.
yea ive never heard of MS13 in san diego either. maybe somebody got MS mixed up with SM which is Sherman who are rivals with Mission Bay.
but either way the vato up there said something that they arent allowed to do business here in SD. why would that be and who would they be following orders from?
i also heard that MS13 isnt really a sureno gang or under la eMe anyways. in fact i heard they were supposed to be joining with the Folk Nation who are against la eMe.
I remember seeing "EST" hit-ups on Broadway in Chula Vista. EST??? 18 Street maybe? Does 18 Street have a clique in San Diego, shit it seems they got a clique everywhere. Or maybe it was East Side Torrance?
Orale,
You know, no wadays with so many people wanting to form or be from a click, EST could be anything. I know a couple vatos from diesiocho here in SD, but they are not forming clicks. They are dudes who left Los to stay on the Downlow. They don't even come outside. Tehy keep a lowprofile.
Politics fluctuate and so do greenlights. Last I heard was that MS was under some kind of scrutiny and were on hold or paperwork was being pulled here in SD. That is politicking at the highest level, and to be forthcoming I am not aware but puro hearsay. Don't tag me on it. Puro rumors.
Market Street tags are usually by default "VML". Never MS 13.
Interesting enough, I have also read online in different forums (i.e. In the Hat) that MS-13 is no longer under Eme edict. But who knows? Inside thigns change from one minute to the next. Sitting on the yard watching the dude right next to you get booked for no fuckin reason other than the fact that he didn't spit in the toilet when brushing his teeth. You know how strict the guidlines are. Stay cool.
In regards to "EST" in Cholo Vista.
It just may be that it stands for "E" STreet?
What are some of the things that SD Varrios do differently than L.A. Varrios?
That 4 digit numbers to represent SD, NC, SY, IB, CV, SM, LH, LM, DS, etc. Is one thing that has never picked up in L.A.
What other things?
like around 2 am i know cuzz one day i seen em tagging it when i was fucked up, but they were only rolling like 3 deep in a combertible mustang, i threw my bottle at them and they scattered! ws LV 13
THE FOOLS DAT SCATTEREDAT 2 AM
WERE OLD TOWN SD AND MISSION BAY LS
LIKE I SAID THEY WERE TAGGIN
WHODA FUCK IS GONNA BE UP DAT LATE ON A TUESDAY?
SE WK STARTED IN MISSION BAY HIGH LIKE 2 YEARS AGO AND THEY GOT WK SPECIALLY FORWEST KILLA BUT THEY MADE INTOWICKED CLOWNS LOL!
THEN MISSION BAY GOT BUTTHURTAND SUPOSUBLY THEY BEFF IT NOW
BUT THEY BORTH ARENT BOUT NOTHING..
Is it true that LV13 split up and formed VTSK a tagging crew? I heard from one toy from VTSK.
vtsk?????? wtf Is dat??
LV13 AINT NOT FUCKING LAME ASS TAGGIN CREW!
SLAP UR SELF ESE! AND WHO EVER TOLD U!
RIP LITTLE CRIMINAL2 FROM MB13
To the vato that asked "who the fuck is going to be up at 2:00 in the morning?"
A lot of people are up at that time. That's the time all the bars and clubs are just closing.
Old Town San Diego All DAY Every Day Gizmo Loco...West Up 2 Lil Blacky And Sharky From The West Mission Bay
Varrio Esco VIEJO SANTOS faded away a long time ago. I seen older dudes but thats it. Once in while a small group of younger dudes will try to bring it back but it never last. The main varrios in ESCO is Varrio Esco Viejo Diablos and Varrio Westside gang,followed closely by Eastside gang a recently new varrio barely a decade old. There is always been new Klicks and varrios but they usually they are small and never last. I remember back in highschool there was Esco Town LoCOS(ETLS) You hear about them from time to time but they since have faded away. There always been Krews but the first tagger/banger group was ALcoholic Brown KREW (ABK) I used to know the main head of the group. They used to be deep! I remember seeing a big group of them with their Klik name in the back of their sweaters. Pretty ballsy.. since u can get busted quickly for just lookin' suspicious in ESCO. I hear there still around but not as deep. The latest varrio is ESCO BOYS TOWN (EBT)Dont know if this is a new varrio or a reformation of ETLS.
ncs stands for notorious clairemont squad!!!
In the 1970s Nortenos held ground in ES Bakersfield, its small but active. Theres an small norteno gang in San Diego called Menard St. Locos also 28th Street. Theres plenty of scraps invading the bay area, while in the works nortenos are claiming turf in La Mesa near San Diego.
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ROUNDTABLE 14
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NORTE 14
does anyone know whats going down in el cajon there is alot going on with the hoodlums and the locos and the orphins and the hoodlums does any one know the story behind those 3 hoods
I'm a NC resident that has many family members from OTNC and other ES NC gangs. As for Insane Boys being WSNC and no OTNC affiliation is totally false. WSNC means OTNC. They are the only hood on the West side of NC. There's a tagger crew turned gang called MTK claiming the west but they no longer do. Due to prison politics. So now they are Mid TOWN NC or whatever. The supposedly NC mob on 2nd were the South Side MOb but now are extinct due to Prison politics. OTNC is the oldest established Gang in SD County check the papers. Old Town is the W/s of National City or any street sign saying ex. w 15th st or whatever. The clicks are OBS (Olden Boys), ATS(lil antigos) a smaller click from OBS ranging from 13-18 year olds, and IBS (INSANE BOYS). The previous known clicks (70's) were the Enanos later Enano Boys and GATOS (GTS). As for OTSD, there's no problems but they aren't cool as to clicking up (if you find any OTSDers). Located in South Bay SD but may say south west sd or just WSNC as Shelltown says south east sd. To the mortal enemies Shelltown, they consist of two clicks gamma boys and 38th st. They may fist fight but no real beef amongst the two clicks. Just like any other click from different gangs.
Nortenos in San Diego? Menard St. Locos 28th Street? Is that in La Mesa?
There are no Norteno or 14 gangs in Southern California. Menard St is a small street full of middle class homes in National City. Stop spreading that fake shit.
My gosh my gosh my gosh. Little boys spreading lies again. There are NO NORTENOS in San Diego. Not in la Mesa, not in La Jolla, not in ANY area. There are many parolees from the South that are located in La Mea and El Cajon, but no busters. Contact gang detective Felix Aguirre at the San Diego Skyline Station (ggole SDPD, Skyline station), who works that area. There are NO NORTENO gangs in San Diego. Quit fabricatiing to make it look like a push little boy. Serious, where do you ass clowns get your facts from?
And much thanks to the vato from NC who set the record straight on the "OTNC/OTSD alliance that little mocoso from OTSD kept pumping up. I told them foolz before, no such alliance existed, but the sheep wouldn't listen.
Orale Lonewolf, you know who this is. Alrato and respects to all.
I live on 28th and Imperial. I cruise up and down 28th all day. What the fuck are you talking about Norteno 28th street gang dude? That area is CONTROLLED by SHERMAN 27th. Wishful thinking. Go listen to E-40 and get hyphy. Please lonewolf, block these busters who cannot git on a real website from talking on hear.
To the vato who posted that there's Norte Varrios in San Diego.
I don't know whos been feeding you that info eNe, but they been feeding you lies holmes. No such thing down here. Nowhere at all in the entire County.
Now if you want to talk about Bakersfield, well that town is way in the fuck out there away from the rest of the Southern Empire. Bakersfield is some 4-5 hours drive from San Diego if you don't hit any traffic, but maybe up there there is some chamacos claiming Norte, but none, zero down in SD County.
I'm not trying to clown you or yours, because if you take a look at the web address for this here sitio, it reads "13radicalriders14" it includes both the Trese and the Catorce,so I'm just trowing out a known "fact".
If you were anywhere familiar with the 28TH street area or La Mesa, you would not argue the "fact" that there is no such thing as a Norte Varrio staking claim to any calles anywhere in those areas.
There may be some Nortenos who moved down from Northern California for whatever reason and now live in San Diego but that still does not mean there is an established Norteno barrio in San Diego. And no, Mexicans wearing red or Mexicans with Mongolian tails doesn't automatically mean they are Nortenos.
puro varrio westside woptown krazy boys lokotes gang!
chucho puttuing it down for the westside of town home!
fuk the lame ass haters out there!
woptown still runinng this shit!
WTxKBSx3 gang!
im from BIG VARRIO OTSD LOCOS ESE!!!AND I KNOW THERE AINT TO ALLIANCE WIT OTNC!WE OLD TOWN WEST SIDERS DONT NEED ALLIANCE FROM NOBODY ESE!I DONT KNOW HOW THIS SHIT GOT STARTED THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ON THIS BUT GET IT STRAIGHT WE DONT NEED NO ALLIANCE FROM NOBODY!WE TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN SHIT!!!!!!!!@!BIG V.OTSD.X3 LOCOS ESE Y QUE!!!!!!!!FUCK OUR HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!!1
can we go back a couple subjects?
can somebody at least clear up why mara salvatrucha doesnt have presence here in SD?
Reason why MS 13 cannot set up shop in San Diego = POLITCS!!! Enough said, end of subject!
well im a MB resident but dont trip i dont bang it,i live over there in grand ave and never seen no ms13 gang members but i have seen there hit up's.
Must be just an MS13 one guy. No clicka. END OF STORY. WEALL AGREE THER ISNT NOT A MS!3 GANG IN SD AND THEWR ISNT NOT NORTENOS./
is van dyke with eastside? or anyone or are they just an independent clika? ive been seeing a lot of van dyke hitups lately. same with landis but they tag ssLandisx3.
Van Dyke is it's own Clicka. They came out in about 02-03. They were getting pumped up by that fool Trigger from LH30 (not the real OG Trigger). This fool was a lop who wsan't no one but got balls finally and went loco. They are their own independent click. Not big time. Started off as VDK, Van Dyke Krew, but wanted to be like EVERYONE ELSE, and became VDLS. Same shit, different toilet.
NEEEEXT!
San Diego aka Daygo
National City aka Nasty City
Grant Hill Park aka the Grants
Mission Bay aka the Bay
Chula Vista aka Cholo Vista
WopTown aka the Town
San Ysidro aka Sidro
Clairemont aka las Claras
Southside aka Sick Side
Westside aka Wicked Side
Southeast aka Sick n Evil side
Eastside aka Evil Side
Oldtown aka "O" town
Logan Hieghts aka the Hieghts
Lomas aka 2 sick street
North Park aka Nutty park
Ocean side aka "O" side
Mission Bay aka Murder Block
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San Diego is "DAGO" not "Daygo"!!! GET IT RIGHT!!!
and dont forget klantee/santee!! haha.
no but really is there any gangs or klikas representing over there?
and whats up with these kids now days? ive been seeing a whole mess of CHTSX3 hitups lately. City Heights? theres no gang thats simply City Hts 13. stupid kids. probably some juniors wannabees.
matter of fact, whos got some info or history on CHTS/ES beef? im from eastside (the area not the gang) but i dont know exactly why they beef. i know Jrs at first were tryin to be in ESD but theres gotta be more to it?
Santee aka KLANtee and Lakeside got nothing but white gangs. They got all the white gangs and the racist white gangs over there. They also got the motorcycle gangs like Hells Angels Peckerwoods MC.
Actually, in Santee, there is a small latino click called STM (Santee Mob, Smokin The Mota)because I ran into them at a party over there last year. Not a gang, not really a Clicka under the SUR tampoco, just a bunch of partying Chicanos reppin Santee. You are on point about there being White gangs. I know a couple of woods and there is an all white boy gang out in Lakeside calling themselves "LakeSide Gangsters". They modeled themselves after the typical NLR/Chicano look, cut off Dickies, white high tube socks, and pendletons. I don't care much for them vatos (Lkaeside gabachos). But I got some love from my homeboys who fly red and white on the job site. Cool vatos who are well connected with the SUR.
In regards to CHTS x3, that is the Juniors clicka. Just another way of hitting it up. Now that istoria, I don't know. I am comfortable with saying that they came out at about 1996. Maybe a few years before. They do beef with the Eastsiders and the Clicka Boys. If anyone from the JRS can provide insight si quieres, go ahead. Orale Lonewolf. Good lookin.
yea i heard Dago Mob has a presence there. theyr a skinhead/bro gang and they started out being called Dago Wood a long time ago but the new kids call it Dago Mob. according to politics the head honchos of these fools do work with the mexican mafia. i guess its because in the bigger picture la eme and the aryan brotherhood have an alliance.
Forgot to mention the PWP (Pecker Wood Posse) and the Rabbi's that kick it in La Mesa/El Cajon. Son firme vatos aquellos (The PWP, the Rabbi vatos are bunch of chavalas),even though some of the homeboys have thrown down with them over maddoggin'. They pretty much keep it cool, and only trip on the mayates.
Lonewolf, since you are from Los, I got a question for you. What can you tell us about the Logan Heights gang over there in San Fernando Valley? I have heard from a few dudes that it started from a familia from LH here in SD that moved to the Valle and now are a full fledged, well known Varrio out there. Can you provide some insight? I beleive this is the only San Diego Varrio that has made a permanent home in LA County, and the only one that will.
does Woptown get along with Linda Vista ?
yea somewhat.
its kinda like woptown and linda vista against oldtown and mission bay.
you foos got it twisted
linda vista is a solitary gang
they dont klick up with no one
wop town and LV is like wat evers
but they dont allie themselfes
we all know mission bay r peace traters
that one cat from Mission Bay is stupid probably a youngster or not even from the barrio itself.MB doesnt get along with OTSD there just cool and only like 4 or 5 youngsters from the barrio kick it with them but WT and LV vs MB and OTSD hell no more like MB vs WT OTSD LV.MB punked the OTSD boys,those cats wanted back up against Wopper boys and the LV gang.OTSD kicks it with SM27 a hood that MB doesnt get along with. Maybe that one cat from MB was reffering to the never existing alliance but "being cool" shit,oh and the TMC and DE kliques of MB are dead.Grand avenue boys and the Locos klique are running MB as of right now and BR boys are still kissing the Locos asses
I know some history of ESSD
Thats were my family is from.
NSBCLICKA UP ON THIS MOTHAFUCKEN SHIT
MGK (Murder Gang Krew) Southeast!!!
Uh, to the ignorant retard that posted Murder Gang Krew. This is a blog regarding VARRIOS, not some Lincoln Park negro gangs. Go post up on BET or myspace you buffoon, and don't forget to go to your spelling class at the palavra tree on 43rd. IDIOTA. Noone here gives a shit about Lincoln. if we wanted to know who klacked who we would listen to a Mitchy Slick CD you wanna be.
i think the MGK up there was chicano. but there is a black click with a similar name i think?
68street murder gang??and i think its o'farrell not lincoln??
idk.. whatever dont make no difference to me.
and wtf you up there if you got history then lets hear it. ive been waiting on some EastSide history for a long ass time on this site. all ive heard(true or not) is that juniorsX3 was trying to be a clicka from ESD but got turned down n now its beef.. i would like some explanation, verification, expansion.. whatever.
For the record, Murder Gang is a clique of the Lincoln Park Bloods (black gang). That MGK-Murder Gang Krew is just a crew, not a gang, big differene. To the vato that posted that MGK, what part of San Diego are you guys from?
Murder Gang is a click in the Lincoln Park Bloods Gang. Among them are the Termite Squad (Little young Gees) as well.
The old reglas was that you had to noodle-knock (head shot) a Skyliner to become a MG member. Go ahead and youtube Mitchy Slick, a fomrer member. He always has Shelltown Boys in his Videos.
Yeah Lincoln Park Bloods, 5/9 Brims (bloods), and Shelltown are always working together on some Southeast San Diego rap shit. Shelltown and 5/9 Brims basically are located in the same area.
Agreed on your last post re: Brims/Shelltown. They used to have a really close alliance. We all are aware that the negros get their dope from the homeboys, so naturally some sets are really cool with each other. I remember back in the mid/late 80's you would see Shelltown boys sporting red tambien (same thing with the red-step boys sporting Niner jerseys). They did have a hell of an alliance with the Brims.
It wasn't unusual to see Logan 30ta boys hanging with the 30s Crips as well. Mutual alliances, not pinta politics, did have a lot of negros chilling with the homeboys. Hey you know, they had to get the coise from somebody to make them rocks.
NSB (Non Stop Ballers) South East!!!
-reply to MGK (Murder Gang Krew) Southeast!!! a couple comments from before
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who ever said that otsd kickes it with sm 27 needs to check them selfs we dont evn talk to foos from sm. their is only one homie that talks to sm 20 cause his younger brother got down fro sm otsd gang up in this we run the west
so whats the story with ESD? do they have any alliances whatsoever??
is ESDA part of ESD or different?
BKS changed theyr names to IBK yes or no are they both different krews...if so what does it stand for?
Interesting discussion re the tagbanger crews in san diego--i remember TMK SEK and AEK well. But there is another major crew-turned-hood which i dont think anyone here has mentioned yet: Still Kicking Ass, which is now a 13 gang that claims 32nd street in southeast SD. I am curious if anyone could shed some light on where they fit in with other graffiti crews and/or gangs--because I remember around 1997, when they started banging (around the same time AEK did) AEK and SKA crews would often be seen together. Yet AEK is established as an eastside crew but SKA is now claiming southeast? Also, i remember back in the early 90s when they were still a bombing crew, SKA would often be seen with SEK(AEK enemies).
Re: SKA.
Let me go ahead and shed some info in regards to the SKA Mob. I still see "Thino" and "Tass" (Sleepy) from SKA. "Help" moved to Vegas and "Cloke" moved to Texas. Snoop is now from LH 30ta and Adik and the rest of them do bang SKA SE 32nd X3. I know "Chems" is married with children and "Dem" is in the Army.
They originally kicked it at the Alley on 32nd street right by Adik's old pad, by Island Avenue. I remember you could smell the Sherm the Crips were smoking right down the street all the time.
Since they used to kick it on 32 (now a defunct location, like AEK claims Euclid but doesn't kick it there anymore) but they are spread out, they still adhere to the 32nd handle. I know the ones mentioned above have "32" stamped on them, so naturally it is still used to describe their clicka. Geographic representation as well.
They are still around, a small but tight knit group of vatos, who still have a very close alliance with AEK LOCOS and the RTS LOCOS as well.
In regards to the SKA/SEK thing, it was plutonic, but not allied. More of one from the group hanging out with the other, not a whole group, but fragmented associates. For example, "Dulo" from SKA (I am talking about circa mid-1990's) would be seen with "Awe" from SEK and bomb together. Also "Chem" from SKA has cousins from SEK like "Saroe". So it was natural for them to hang out from time to time. On the other end, "Kaos" from AEK had always been seen with "Asel" and "User" from TMK. As a matter of fact, "Host" and "User" would bomb East Side up with minimal, if not for one or two conflicts with AEK. I do remember a party where "Snaps" from SKA boxed "Choke" from SEK. It did not turn into Crew conflict, but an example of friction with mutual diplomatic crews.
As we are well aware, after Crews had been ordered to "Tow the Line" in the pinta, SKA did not align under an umbrella of an existing Barrio like TMK (Sherman), AEK (East Side SD), SEK (Logan 30ta), and RTS (some went on to Lomas, and the remaining claimed it as an ES hood. That is another story in itself.) so SKA chose to remain independent and claim SE 32nd. For a SE Crew, they had hella ties to AEK. Remember, it was geographic strategy to have alliances with cross-towners. You could have a "cool down" pad if things got hot when you were in a rivals area. Or as with the case of SKA, the AEK boys were in an area that wasn't generating heat for the SKA Mob, so it was cool to visit. So there it is. The lowdown on the SKA Mob, from someone who gets his tats done from THINO at his shop. PROPS out to THIN-LOCO from SKA. Stay up and keep that ink flowing.
so how bout the RTS story?
or anything else regarding ES?
Re: RTS
Well, I kicked it with some RTS cats back in the day, not the new RTS, but the old school writers so let me give you some 411.
RTS started off originally as "Running The Show". it used to have a mixed bag of dudes like "Psycho" and "Rocket" who were Logan confederates as well. They also had dudes like "Mente" and "Skash" and a whole slew of dudes before they went "Golden Hill" on us (not meant to be disrespectful). I hung out with the dudes that went to the old Garfield HS in North Park and who were mostly Lomas/Golden Hill confederates as well (save for a few who were not). There was Skuro, Gat, Traves, Husle, Fuss, Rymes, Cash, and a bunch of other dudes. They really held there own and the main spot where they chilled was right there in th alley off of 25th and Broadway. Alot of Lomas dudes were around there and hung out with them and alos dudes like Traves had brother(s) from Lomas. Remember that they also beefed with TMK, which were Sherman confederates, and Lomas and Sherman always had problems, so naturally the Varrios exploited the tagging crews and situations overlapped. Gatcha and Bonk however, lived and were raised in East Side with relatives from ES and even Fuss has a brother from ES. I remember them kicking with the AEK boys and SKA dudes pretty tight. Oh, and let me not forget that crazy dude Sabio from RTS as well (who used to walk around with a machete and always did dirt all on acid all the time).
After a few years they stopped kicking in the alley (things got hot) and I never knew what became of them after about 1998. I know that the newer generation of RTS dudes (some of them migratory from EB and UIS) claim RTS as an ES Click. I do not know if they fell uner the umbrella of ES or have yet to get the SUR's blessings or what they're status is. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen any of them or if they remained independent. I don't make assumptions or spread chisme, just Varrio facts and that is where my knowledge ends. I know a few of them dudes put that life behind them and like the rest of us just basically grew the fuck up and are working hard family men. But man oh man, back in the days that writing shit was really on fire. It is just evolution and prison politics that led to what it is today. I mean man, if you are latino and tagging and you hit County, you got some issues. But if you just tag and you hit state then you are REALLY in some deep shit. They don't play that anymore. No more passes for taggers. You get shanked or booked ON SIGHT.
That is why some crews wrapped it up and called it quits, others morphed into independent Varrios (SKA and AEK for example) and others like SEK are Logan. No question about that. Tagging is for the gabachos mainly now who just "do art" and don't get me wrong, there are gente out there like that vato "Ruen" from Shelltown who make MONEY off of a legitamite business, but alot of what you see are crews who claim to be "Clicks",but aren't a gang, or young little kids who had a relative who used to tag a certain crew and they wanna write it (i.e. UWK, GI, WPI. None of the originals from those crews write anymore. They all grew up man.).
All in all, those crews are all stepping stones to gangsterism. That is basically what the fuck it is. Anyone who tells you different is fucking dillusional. Party crews faded out in the late 90's.
Hope that helps. Take care.
man you are rite man.iremember all of thoes fooz you talk about. you know alot. were you used to write foo o what?? you claim? i just asking. no problems. alright then holmes alrato.
Every ones got that rapper from the hood, here are some
Lil One from Logan Heights RS
Greedy from Logan Heights 30th
Panther from Sherman 27th
Mr Temps from Otay RLS
Stalker from Oldtown OBS
Chicle boy from Oldtown OBS
Lil Bullet from Eastside Sd EBS
Og Spanish fly from Oldtown OBS
Mr Shadown from Woptown APK
Mr Knightowl from Woptown APK
Hefty from Mission Bay LSC
Lil One from Mission Bay LSC
Any more? what about Market street
Shelltown? Lomas? Linda Vista?
mr lil one is from sherman isnt he?
n madman is from lomas i think?
n wheres lil rob from?
To the vato that asked if I was a writer or bang, no. I just used to sell yesca at Garfield High School back in the days (mid-90s) to all those dudes and they were hella cool. Plus they had all the bitches and it was fun. The RTS dudes that went there were the ones I mentioned, and the SKA dudes were Cloke, Chem, Help, Thino, Fresco, Panic. Also dudes from Hemlock like Mismo. A couple UWK dudes like OG Phooie and Toons (R.I.P.). Some Southeast dudes like Atomek (now from 30ta) and Blur and Tuck too.
The AEK boys that went there were Tron, Zags, Gruf, Kaos, Deny, and I think Laters. But one day they all dropped out.
Also the whole KBP crew went there.
The Varrios that went there were a shitload of ES Boys like Soldier (RIP), Stalker, Pequeno, and like 10 other dudes. Also a couple Encanto dudes like Joker.
A couple Sherman vatos too like Cholo and Sniper and a couple OTNC IBS like Sneeky and Player.
A few other dudes from other hoods tried to go but were pretty much run out or jumped on the first day (like let's say Logan boy or a Mission Bay dude came they were automatically fucked with.) The dudes who held there own after a few fights were eventually granted immunity. I remember a Woptown dude that fought Joker from Encanto 3 straight days and would not give up. Eventually everyone saw he had heart and left him alone. Not many succeeded like that. Most dudes folded and bailed out from there.
Also it was a Blood school. All the Brims and ESP's and Lincoln Park Bloods would go there. The Bloods had conflict, but whenever a Crip tried to go there they were jumped the first day too. I don't know how the new Garfield is, so if someone out there knows shed some light on it.
Also, let's connect the gangs to the schools. For example, we all know Logan goes to SD High. What about Sherman and Lomas? Someone mentioned Sherman goes to Mission Bay High, but wouldn't that be infringing on MB Locos territory?
I know at Helix there is Lemon Grove Locos there pretty deep. Mt. Miguel is all Lomita Boys. And Hoover is all ESiders and Crawford is all the Clicka Boys.
Lil Rob is from La Colonia Eden Gardens in Solana Beach. A VERY OLD Varrio that is actually pretty run down. In a very expensive area, but run down none the less. I tripped out becuase I was up there and it is a straight up Mexican Varrio among multi-million dollar homes. Same thing with Varrio Encinitas T-Flats.
Lil One is from Sherman. Greedy Loc from 30s is a really good rapper. His album is pretty bangin.
this to the dude who say he from "SEK", who is you? what ya name. I'm from "SEK" way back ago. This "ARES"SEK". days of the old school dudes. choke,oaks,genio,booms,sure,ares,whoo,fesk,gane,seeks,chums,beauty,bless,phiber,rumer,arch. if ya any of them holla @ ya boy.if ya not then who put ya in?what ya creditials? i out here in oklahoma now but it's still 735'Kings homie. what up wit everybody, miss them days down on 32nd & comm. hit me up at-Info@mvmediaworx.com so we can talk homie."SOUTH-EAST-KINGZ"73'K"STEADY-EMPTY'N-KANS"SMOKIN-ENDLESS-KRONIC"SILLY-ENEMYZ-KILLED"
yeah SEK kicked it with some dudes from SKA like DULO & CLOKER. them my dudes.Phiber from SKA came over to the SEK & Arch from RTS came over also.as far as Choke boxin at the party,shit we was always havin to box with fools where ever we went.we was cool wit WC30s
(Catdaddy R.I.P)til a dude got killed & our shit was tagged on curb thought we had sumthin do wit it. we was always down wit LH30TA. Cougar was basically always kickin it. Booms & Sure went into LH30TA.
"Ares-SEKingz"
oh & to whoever said we was from shelltown is wrong- it was LH. over on SE32nd & Commercial.
SEK wasn't from sherman.
in regards to SEK history it WHOO & me ARES,FESK &GANE was the only white boys down with SEK. we were down fo the krew just as any other homie whether it was all niters bombin city wide or brawlin. ask any og member. now me & Whoo were really the only 2 the actully were in the hood every day. Looks came on a lot later. fesk move to bay area,gane was sent back to sweden but me & Whoo always repped the klick. now all of this can be verified by talkin to any OG SEKlanster.wanted to set the facts strait so folks know the real history.so many stories & many more memories of those good times. to any 735mobbster it's S.E.K. 4 life homie. OG"ARES SEK" & to any youngsta that tellin twisted tales on the SEK get @ me i give ya the real.
in regards to SEK history it WHOO & me ARES,FESK &GANE was the only white boys down with SEK. we were down fo the krew just as any other homie whether it was all niters bombin city wide or brawlin. ask any og member. now me & Whoo were really the only 2 the actully were in the hood every day. Looks came on a lot later. fesk move to bay area,gane was sent back to sweden but me & Whoo always repped the klick. now all of this can be verified by talkin to any OG SEKlanster.wanted to set the facts strait so folks know the real history.so many stories & many more memories of those good times. to any 735mobbster it's S.E.K. 4 life homie. OG"ARES SEK" & to any youngsta that tellin twisted tales on the SEK get @ me i give ya the real.
looks got took cuz if i remember rite he had sumthin to do wit the other side.Fesk was basically just a writter & wasn't around the street shit but me & Whoo was neck deep in it wit the homies, rite there at they side.looks was fesk's boy. they was krew as far as bombin but never in the hood. this all can be checked out. just ask Choke bout time me & Whoo got busted & distracted cops so him & Oaks could get away clean.i caught a pistol charge that time, haha.we still won the war
So "Ares" SEK. Where did you do time at and at what Camp/County facility?
Where at in Logan did you live at, or were you like them other white boys who lived in Nice houses in San Carlos but thought they were ghetto? Why didn't you make the transition to gangster and become from 30ta?
And also, why do you sound black? Please don't be offended, but your style of writing indicates other wise.
As for Fesk, I saw him at the Tattoo expo in Del Mar. He has 2 or 3 shops he owns. Last I heard about Looks, he trying to get into the graffiti store supply business with a store called "Tools of the trade".
When I was in Donovan, I was in the Amity Program with a few AEK and SEK homies.
As a matter of fact, Saroe from SEK did the tattoos for Chino from AEK. Chokes is in New Folsom and Oaks is in another pinta.
The last time I saw Booms and Atomic in Donovan they said that the only reason they let in any white boys into SEK back in the day was to use them for mobility and paint.
So please "Ares". Let us know what part of town you lived at and why you left. Don't be offended. Just keep it level headed. If I can run your jacket from here and ask a few SEK vatos about you then I will. Granted, I need your cooperation ese.
Now, a fact I will not argue with is that you did hit up. I seen your tags around. And yes, you were from SEK. I am not denying that. But how did a white kid who used to tag with DSK with the other white rich kids all of a sudden become "SEK 4 Life"?
And how come you don't have the SEK 13 tattoos on you like the other vatos?
And if you look at your last post, any one in the Varrio will tell you that you straight got played for a punk ese. For the homeboys to "get away" while you catch a caso con la jura and get hit with a gun charge you got used and played for a fool ese. I can picture the homeboys laughing as they hit the corner "them white boys took the heat while we got away!".
No te aguites guey. I am just telling it like it is.
-Mr. Largo. Logan Heights.
to the foo that ASLED ABOUT THE INFO ON GARFEILD....WELL YEA IMA A FOO THAT GOES THERE AND NOW ITS CALMER THEN THE WAY U MADE IT SOUND THERE ARE A FEW FIGHTS EVERY NOW AND THEN WHEN THE NEW FOOS COME IN BUT NOT MUCH THE SCHOOL IS NOW RUNED BY PURO SOUTH EAST SAN DIEGO AND WK(WICKED KLOWNS) AND KP (KRAZY PAYASOS) THERE THE HOMEBOYS LIKE GRIPS FROM WK HES DOWN AS FUCK THEY CATCH NEW FOOS AND CHECK EVERYONE JUST GETTING RID OF THE FAGS LIKE EAST SIDERS OR ANY ENEMYS FOR THEM CANT STEP ON WITH OUT GETTING JUMPED OR CAUGHT SLIPPIN WELL YEA LOGAN FOOS GO THERE TO BUT ONLY A COUPLE
SHOUT OUTS TO THE G'S FROM GARFEILD
SEXSD FROGGY MACK KASE SMALLS LENTOW BIG BOY
SEXWKLS GRIPS SNASH LISTO SILENT VAGO AND THE REST
SEXKP GATO DYABLO BANDIT PANIK GRIMS
SEXUTK CORRUPT AND FREE TIMIK
AND LOGAN X3 STOMPER
AND MUCH MORE THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION BUT MAIN FOOS RITE THERE
ALL THESE FOOS ARE CRAZY BUT ITS CALM BECAUSE THEY ALL GET ALONG BUT WHEN ENEMYS COME IT GETS ON AND CRACKING
this fo Mr.Largo, ya was askin sum questions.ask away, its all good,man i'm old,i aint feel no disrespect. first to set it strait- i never said i was a gangsta or claim to be. respect to the homies that was & still are now. i down fo the "SEK" thoe & we had 2 bang fo it alot. i was lucky cuz i didnt have to catch a felony on the gun cuz i didnt have it on me, was stashed. it was mine & i not bout let 1 the homies get charged wit it, aint no buster. i never ever wrote wit dsk, who is that? only krew i with is SEK. and to where i lived, at that time i was basically homeless, me & whoo stayed @ a homies spot out in point loma, on quimby st. was a party house. and stayed downtown wit arch, his sis & Chavo from 30ta. yeah we white boys and fesk was rich kid so was WHOO, gane lived sum projects. looks, i dont no bout dude, he was wit the crew but i didnt hang wit him. like i said me & whoo was really only 1s that ever kicked it in the Logan. 32nd at chokes & we had the vacant lot down the street we kicked it at.i left dago to come here fo take care family matters. when i went back to sd, the nite before the spot i was gonna stay got raided and i wasnt gonna street it cuz i never went back 2 court. lady from Y say she took care my sentence cuz we got her sum car sounds but i dont no if that shit was cleared or what. so came back 2 OK & been hustlin since.don't know if i answered ya ?s but feel free to ask any or check shit. real shit & aint got none 2 hide. ya can get at me easier thru email:info@mvmediaworx.com. and its still SEK4LIFE wit me, shit i just hit that up in elevator out here yesterday as a matter of fact haha. by the way i wasnt ever rich, not by far my dude. broke as a mutha just tryin make it fo my son ya feel.and how ya know if i got tat or not, aint been 2 sd since what maybe 93. i had moved in i think 92. was in contact wit few folks like whoo,choke,arch but lost contact. would like 2 contact wit the homies so if ya do run into any of em tell em ARESEK say whats good. i just came across this site and man it felt good to see & read all the stuff & folks i kicked it with. also to who ever said ClokeSKA live in texas, what city? that was my dude there, purp smokin big. thats whats up thoe, check shit out, i would. already, "ARES"SEK"
Mr. Largo, now got a question fo you. Was ya around us back then? if so who are you? no disrespect, but if ya was then we might know each other. and as far as specifics on stories i can't do that cuz i don't no if ya cool or the folks ya feel. no disrespet to ya but ya understand thoe.ARESEK
Well back in the eighties acouple of Sherman boys did go to Mission Bay High but they were fighting not only Mission Bay Locos but also Mission Bay Deadend boys. I left that school in 92' and It was always Sherman vs Mission Bay somedays Sherman would win and some days Mission Bay would win, but Mission Bay had an advantage because not only they were in MB but MB had Locos and DeadEnd.I think that thats why Mission Bay and Sherman hate each other. Damn the fucking 90's were crazy, Mission Bay Boys kicking in in front of the La Coauilla up in grand and the Sherman Boys up in Grant Hills Park. The gangs that were known back in the early nineties were ...
Sherman 27 and 20
Mission Bay LS and DE
Logan RS and 30
Linda Vista TLS,PWS and Morley st
Shelltown 38
Eastside Sandiego X3
Oldtown National City X3
and I think thats about it que no?
Southeast wasnt really to be known or big and niether was Westside
Alright ARES. Cool info. Sorry to hear you had to grind it out in the calles. It sounds like you should have been courted in the Varrio if your living situation was so dire. But you weren't the only one. Alot of dudes were drifters homie. That is what made the Crews so tight. I think alot of people are unaware of how tight knit the crews were. As a grown up as well now, it is a trip to look back and see how things were. It doesn't matter which Crew you were from, becuase weather it was the SKA, TMK, AEK, or SEK, we all basically had the same standards and principles. Believe me, if it wasn't for pinta politics, I think alot of dudes would STILL BE BOMBING. Bury me with a streaker as one of my homeboys who used to write told me. Actually, I am from old school BSD Crew homie. Kicked it with FK and did some UWK for a minute, but the Heights came calling and I had to fall in line. Actually AEK and SEK were originally cool with each other. I knew vatos from both sides and each side had down ass heads and each had campaigns that had it's share of destruction. SEK was up due to it's heavy mobility. Especially after Looks and Fesk joined. Those dudes tore it up. SEK had the Southeast on lock. As AEK had East side on lockdown, and there were the in between areas (downtown, la mesa, etc.). The only crew that I ever remember that really fucked it up city-wide on EVERY spot and area was TVC. Those skateboarders DESTROYED THE CITY. I remember incidents where SEK caught AEK slippin and let them have it (Looks gettin Loke from AEK at an RTS party) and I remember AEK lynching Fesk at the SKA skam n jam party. It was tit-for-tat back then. It just makes me smile dog when you think of the paint store rackin', going into Aaron Brothers (before the spots were burned!) and racking the fuck out of all the streakers and pilots. Check this out, my boys and I would straight up have boostin' contests homie. We would light it the fuck up and come out with food homie. Fuck gear and tools, my crew hit the Seafood section of Lucky's and boosted the fuck out of the shrimp homie!
Then I remember when some crew (cannot name, need to protect the innocent!) looted the Store that cannot be named on 30th. Then I remember some crews straight up looting the paint stores and coming up BIG TIME. I would see the AEK boys at Garfield and them fools would be sporting all kinds of "Body Glove" and Millers' Outpost" gear and of course those motherfuckers were broke like us so we know how fools would do it!
And how we used to drain the Desk Cleaner cans and take ACid. Homie my brain is seriously fucked up still from all them raves and drugs man.
But anyway, I am way off track homie. You are making me wanna go to the pits at the Euclid trolley station and throw down some throwups. But it's just drunk talk right now in my head, so let me snap out of it and remember that I have bills to pay, a mortgage, a car note. The only upside is I am out of jail, got a fine wife of 2 years, and two beautiful but badass little rugrats.
To the dude who hit up about the new Garfield, good looking out on the info youngster. Now, where do all your enemigas go to and what about SD high? Who goes there?
To the dude who posted Sherman Historia, thanks. It is good to see some real historia and correspondence instead of the typical hood shout outs. Keep up the conversations.
Stay safe out there in Soonerville. Laters.
Stay cool in Soonerville. Laters.
can someone give me the history of UIS. Do they kick it back with TEW or are the seperate krews.
Rest in peace "Perdido" from Mission Bay gang, homie got killed in Clairemont by some mayates, Homie was fucken down just got killed 2 days ago fuck, anybody know him?
hey i went to garfield not too long ago. i was there for about a year i left in like the beginning of february just last year. it was hella logan foos when i was there but i know that school is rapidly changing because people come and go weekly. but when i was there 30ta was definitely the majority and a couple foos from redsteps. and it was people that were straight up from Logan, not no weak ass WK or KP shit or nothing like that the only person that repped a logan click was some fool from CBS/clay block. as far as i know there was no one from ES. towards the end of my stay some1 kept hitting up Lomas around the school and everyone was tryng to figure out who it was. there were a couple heads from 73ls and hella heads from SFAC. and a lot of other foos that were taggers. in fact the tagger Stue went there but didnt let it be known. i was one of the few people that knew he was there. for black foos it was mostly brims 1 person from lincoln 2 people from skyline 1 person from black mob a few dudes from westcoast 30s a little guy from some crip set in el cajon like 2 guys from NH47 and a couple crips from ESdaygo mob. there was a couple asian crips from OBS in ES. people thought there were a couple more bloods than crips but there actually pretty even its just that most the bloods are just hella visible but there was NEVER ANY fights when i was there. only some arguments between some girls. it was pretty much peaceful there but i heard about the foos that go there now theyr all caught up in being all hardcore vatos n shit acting up man it was on some chill ass og shit only like a year ago. some of the teachers were pretty cool there ms fowler is the shit.
but my older cousin went there a few years back n she said there was a lot of foos from ES SURx3 Lomas and Logan. this was back when Lomas was really active they were fighting Logan on one front and north park SurTrece on the other. i remember watching a bigass brawl at north park man Lomas came super deep. shit that was back in the day for me it was probably 10 years ago.
and about UIS and TEW dont they beef? UIS is a ES krew right? and TEW crosses anything with an E out? theyve been hella active lately. been doing a lot of freeway shit around where the 15 and the 805 split/connect. like around home avenue n shit.. speaking of home avenue, is that pretty much the border between ES and SE? that'd be my guess.
so im trying to find out a lil information on my neighborhood varrio otay.. i know a lil bit but im not sure whats accurate or not... i remember they had a big ass article in the SAN DIEGO READER, about the nieghborhood and its roots and things of that nature but they didnt really discuss the origins of the cliks and how they formed like VLO (varrio locos otay), RLS (rasta locos) and RBLS (riverbottom locos. i know they all unite under otay but how come they dont just bang otay?
its funny cuz LOMITA VILLAGE bangs TLS but for TRAVIESO LOCOS and LINDA VISTA bangs TLS for TINY LOCOS and both LV TLS i think that LINDA VISTA is older no
b.Sherman.calle27.calle20
grant.hill.park.locos
Bay Riders? why did many (not all)
got down for LOCOS from MB?
Linda vista 13 1948' was the year when some of the raza got together and formed Linda vista night owls. At the time Clairemont was a land for rancheros and there was nothing but farms same with Oldtown
Im 42 years old I wasnt raised during these times my father was thats lo que he told me. Mission bay didnt even have a gang in there until about 17 years later.
West sandiego barrios were
Linda vista tecolotes
claras varrio
mission bay club
hey lonewolf WHY DONT U MAKE A PAGE ABOUT SOUTH EAST SAN DIEGO HUH YOU HAVE SAN YSIDRO AND LOGAN AND SHERMAN BUT UR MISSIN THE MAIN ONE SOUTH EAST SAN DIEGO AND ALL THE TAGGINGS
SExSD RIFA HOMEBOY!!
yeah lone wolf, we all want to know all gangas that live there, u know, just want to kno
foos got the game mixed up thinking sexsd = to SEx3.
SexSd are just riders reppin the SE
But the Real Shit is SEX3ls Knows AS SEX3LKS=lokos
AKA:
Loketown gang
45 Parkeros
Imperial avenue boys
lks gang
50 block
dont act like you havent heard cuz we the most hated even by the southeast krews
Tha fuck? are you kidding me? SESD is just a fucking side of Sandiego
theres no SESD 13 retard theres a SE'LKS but they bang for the 13 not like lil kid shit like UFk or Wk bullshit. Everyone knows that, tell that to a Logan or Shelltown boy, theyll tell you was up,its different with Eastside they bang Eastside 13 Evilboys thats a old varrio, and SESD arnt the main SD hood lil boy
Agreed.
I usually let the masas get it out of the side of their neck, but when these little boys start posting up some Peterpan and Pajama prankster shit, then it is time to speak on it. so, as if the lames didn't take the time to read, much less educate themselves, with their ignorant mayate-type linguistics, let me break it down to you ingorant fucks for real. In plain spanglish homeboy.
There is no SESD 13. we can all commonly agree that reppin your side is one thing, but banging it is completely on another level. See, fools like that kid from SE rep SE, dress like a banger, talk like a banger, walk like a banger, because they have warped minds and blur the lines so badly that many fail to recognize the distinction. And it is isn't limited to SE either. There are Easterners that claim ES, but aren't from a gang, there are Baysiders that do the same, and SSD's as well. Now, I am not dissing that aspect.
I believe it is better to be proud and rep an area WITHOUT bangin' it, but to act like a gangster at your own leisure when you see fit is just being a punk bitch.
For example. In the alley by my pad it says "V.ESDLocos". It was crossed out by someone from WEST SAN DIEGO, who was crossed out by KIETO #3 from SED. See what I am sayin? Why the fuck do these little boys who don't even bang a gang act like gangsters? You know what happens when you hit the pen with that shit? YOU GET CHECKED. AND THEN SOME. The shot callers will find out where your from, and when they find out out you aren't from a Varrio and no one knows your lame ass, they put you on a mission. Which usually involves bombing on some civilian you don't know so you can smuggle the carga in your ass for the big homie who is in the hole. It works like that homeboy. So go on and rep your side, but by the time you reach 30 and start making a living you will realize that the only thing that matters is that we are all from SD. You fucking lames.
David M. aka Happy from SE LOKOTES. Doing life without the P. Keep your head up big dog.
Wait til them kids that tag hit the real yard. READ UP ON THAT chavalas.
what did you mean by baysiders
you mean southbay
does eastside start at the 15 freeway or the 805?
Re post:
I wrote Baysiders, as in those who kick it and chill in the Western Bay area (Mission Bay. Clairemont). I abbreviated South bay as SSD.
Here are the geographical Varrio Boundries for East Side:
West: Territory starts from 35th Street eastward.
East: Territory generally drops off at 54th Street.
North: Territory generally borders Adams Avenue.
South: Territory ends at Home Avenue.
Insane Boys IBS did not leave OTNC, if you take a look at the Innocent Brands myspace videos, they shout out IBS and OTNC, and i see taggings every once in a while with "Insane Boys OTNC *ALIAS*", and that was 2 months ago on fenruary of 2008, so that broke off part is not true and they are still part of OTNC
who knows wen shelltown was started?
what about the territory between home ave and 54th? they dont intersect is it just kinda like a gray area in between them? sometimes i see ES Diego Aztecs hit up near where home ave turns into euclid and all thru altadena and ridgeview dr.
THE ONE AND ONLY GANG IN SOUTHEAST THATS NOT A PART OF LOGAN AND SHERMAN AND STAY BY THE FOUR DEATH CORNERS IN EUCLID AND IMPERIAL IS SOUTHEASTX3LOKOS.. THIS GANG RUNS FROM 43RD STREET TO EUCLID ITS BEEN UP 4 MORE THAN TEN YEARS ...WEN THEY BEGAN THEY WERE DEEP BUT THE COPS BROKE THEM DOWN LOCKING THEM UP.. THEN THE OLDER HEADS CAME OUT AND BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN .... KNOW THERE RECOGNIZE BY A STAMP THAT THEY GOT ON THERE RIGHT AND ITS A CIRCLE WITH A SE IN THE MIDDLE... THATS ALL I GOT TO SAY OF SEX3LKS GANG
what are some rivalries in san diego?i know a couple, correct me if im wrong.
Logan Hts vs Shelltown
OTNC vs Shelltown
Paradise Hills vs LV70s
Sherman vs Logan Hts
Eastside vs Southeast
vOtay vs vChula Vista
vChula Vista vs WestsideLocos (CV)
ESD vs CH JRS
Sur13SD vs ESD
Mission Bay vs Claras
UIS vs Aztec Nation Ls
TEW vs UFK
73ls vs Shelltown
does Encanto and Sherman beef it?
To the previous post re: Rivalries.
It would be better to assume that most hoods have a tendency to act upon any violators and/or aggressors. many hoods will challenge all outsiders, regardless of war/peace time status.
Some rivalries are hot/cold, while others are general "Fuck them" status. We can all agree that Logan does not get along with anyone with the exception of family members and business associates/dealings. That pretty much can be said for any Varrio. Family and money first, conflict secondary.
Then again some beefs are malcontigent upon predicating factors, and others may die out and mutual or plutonic sitations arise.
For example, Logan has more concerns than to worry about ES, thus dealing with their own Varrio border infractions and hood overlaps (See Shelltown and Sherman) as does NC (Shelltown, Chula Vista).
Sherman vs Logan,Oldtown Nc,Lomas,
Mission Bay,
Logan vs every Sandiego gang
Lomas vs Northpark, Sur 13, Sherman, Logan
Shelltown vs Mountain view, Logan,Southeast Lokos,
Paradise hills vs Lomita, Lemon grove, Encanto, El cajon, Mission Bay, Spring valley, Woptown
Lomita has the same enemies as PH
Oldtown Nc vs Chulavista, Otay, San ysidro, Imperial,
note.. all SSD gangs hate eachother
Eastside Sd vs every Southeast and Westside gangs
Linda vista vs Mission bay, Clairemont, Oldtown SD and NC
Woptown vs Logan, ESD, Lomita, Spring valley, Mission bAy,
Clairemont vs Mission bay, Linda vista, encanto, some westside crews
Mission bay vs Sherman, Linda vista, crips, bloods, Woptown
OTSD vs every west gang and ESD
Interestingly enough, East Side has alot to concentrate on then a miniscule infraction of one or two OTSD heads. The reason why the number of OTSD heads, as with others that flood the East Side area is because of low cost of living. Seriously, do you think anyone can afford to live in Old Town when their hefita only makes $9,000 a year? I am not being insultive, but the facts are the facts. All the OTSD live in East Side becuase the damn rent is so cheap. You can find vaots from all over San Diego County that live in East Side. Some have conflict, others are resound and keep a low profile, and others just don't sweat it. I know of vatos from OTNC, Woptown, a couple Sherman heads, and a few Loganeros that live in East Side. East Side currently has it's plate full with the JRS, and the Clicka Boys. The beef with other Clicks and Crews is contigent upon running into them and what infraction caused a dispute. I know of a homeboy from Logan Hts X3 that lives right dmack in Shelltown that does his best to avoid detection. For the most part he tays with his hina off of Adams Avenue in Normal Hts, and limits his comings and goings to late night owl hours to avoid trouble. It is only a matter of time I tell the vato before someone detects him. Best of luck Mr. W, you know who you are vato!
Back on subject, I am a littel familiar with the Chula Vista vs. West Side Locos beef, but not too much. I do know they hate each other. Does anyone from the Southbay know about this conflict? And how did it start?
To the guy that said all the oldschool San Diego writers have quit graff and grown up--youre pretty much right, but there are a few exceptions...
The greensign killer-- WEPON GI-- has made a minor comeback in recent years...KORE and SLYE of HB went on a bombing rampage about five years ago...and TVcrew is still around, catching spots here and there... NR, OA, NVS, UF and others are still here as well, even if just a shadow of their glory days.
SD graff sucks compared to the way used to be though, its really too bad that so many people got caught up with banging or "the system"...
But anyways I was wondering if anyone has any info on another former graffiti crew, the "Extremely Vicious" Everlasting Vandals"--they were the main rivals to TV and if i recall correctly they were pretty closely associated with RTS. I dont know if they got absorbed into the gang life or what but when they were active they sure caught their share of wreck.
Went to Chicano Park Day yesterday. I saw Logan, Sherman, Shelltown, East Side, dudes from all Varrios pushing their strollers with their hynas and enjoying the day. Wishful thinking to hopefully see everyone get along like this everyday.
Lonewolf, i'm not sure if you allow people to post outside links on here, but if so i was thinking the people on here discussing San Diego graffiti history might enjoy seeing my flickr --address is: http://flickr.com/photos/13804075@N00/
Even though this site seems to deal mainly with "varrios" rather than writers, i am sure i'm not the only one that gets pumped up whenever i see graffiti from way back still riding. So when I'm out walking around in SD and i see old hitups that somehow escaped the buff, I post them up. Matter of fact "Mr. Largo"--i went out on a photo mission today and i saw you up at 33rd & Durant St.
Anyways, I didnt really get into graffiti until the mid-90s, when "good old days" of bombing were already coming to an end...so I definately appreciate the history lessons here. I took the liberty of reposting some of this discussion over on my flickr, hopefully no one minds. Feel free to check it out and add additional comments/insight.
Peace!
All is good on this side, the more people that participate is firme me, so if you got some firme scribbles you keep on your pages that's cool porque I'll be visiting your link tambien and check out what you got on there.
Orale pues, ay nos vemos al rato loco.
RE; EV Crew.
Ahh yes. I do remember EV. I knew a few of them heads and yes, they ran a tight ship with RTS. I knew Wirls, Nuke, Bones, Hello and Hacer from EV. They were a Southeast/Shelltown Crew but they never banged and were allllll about smoking yesca and writing. They died out as well. Oh yea, TVC does still bomb. I see them writing by this bar they frequent by my hynas pad in North Park. But they were as true to the real roots of writing as any crew. They put it down. Originally known as "Three Vandals", becuase when they started it was Ceso, Foe, and Zar from TV. They all went to Helix. After that, that crew REALLY took off. This was circa 1992. Then they had the whole other possee of dudes jin them, mostly they were skaters like Jah, Milk, and a bunch of other down artists. I still see Cesos fine ass cousin Shanon at the club spots, and I ran into him at a Padres game last year. Firme vato he was.
Yea, I saw Stuck from NR last year. He is still fucking around but more calm.
I can voucher that I think most old school writers still get drunk from time to time and grab a can and do some damamge. Not still practicing the lost ways, but just taggin' on some drunk shit! Not reppin the set again but just doin' it to have fun. We have to walk such a fucken straight line now a days with the SUR politics that every now and then our grown asses just like to roll a toque with the old homies, grab a can from our garage and hit up on our way to the liqour store (walking homie, caught 2 DUIs from back in the day already!) and just reminisce. The next day we still gotta get up, lace up the workboots and make sure our daughters have some food on the table. But hey, who said we can't take a trip down memory lane? :)
Good link you posted up dude. Those pics I am sure will stir my pot. Lemme grab a cold one and put my kids to bed before I spark up this lenio with my wife (who used to be a party crew girl from ND herself!) and take a look at those flicks.
There is some good clecha on here. Keep it going. Alrato y cuidanse.
Dude, that website with all the graff is the best sight in all of the web for all San Diego old school tags. I cannot believe it!
SE.ST.38st
SE.ST.GBS.3V3.38st
SE.LH.RS.30ta
SE.LH.30ta
SE.LH.13.30ta
SE.LH.33rd
SE.SM.27st.GHP
SE.LM.26st
SE.E.69st.ES
SE.LV.70s
SE.PH.13
SE.MV.73
SE.RK
SE.BAP
SESD.LS
SE.BAS
SE.CLB
SE.WK
SE.OEK
SHELLTOWN GAMMA STREET IS COOL WITH 5/9 BRIMS GAMMA BOYS MAIN COLORS ARE RED AND BLACK.
Technically, most of those gangs you posted are NOT Southeast. If you look at Logan, it is Actually SOUTHWEST. The hoods that lie SOUTH of Central San Diego and EAST of Central San Diego are Shelltown, Lincoln Park, and a couple others. See, if you travel East to East Side, which is geographically the 40's and 50's blocks (41st, Chamoune, Euclid, 54th Street,) then head south, you run into South East. I don't understand how PH could even BEGIN to say they are Southeast. Lomita is kind of pushing it as well. But how can Logan, which lets say from Chicano Park by the ballpark, call itself Southeast? Or even the 30ta boys? Memorial Park is on 30th, and if you head north you run into Golden Hills. Head West and you hit Sherman. Head south more and you run into the water. So why isn't is called West Side instead of Southeast? Market Street can absolutely claim Southeast as well. Anyone disagree or agree?
nice list, but waht does BAS stand for?
does Martin Block and Clay Block beef?
VARRIO LOMITA VILLAGE 70 GANG TRAVIESOS CLICKA
OLDTOWN NATIONAL CITY XIII IBS GANG
BIG WESTSIDE BIG TIME!
has anyone ever heard of vatos bangin in solana beach?
the ones that bang in Solana are the old ass barrio Eden Gardens
the only 858 area code barrio thats bangs Eastside instead of westside sd
No. That so-called gang up in Solana Beach next to the country clubs doesnt bang on anyone. The Solana Beach and Encinitas varrios are in reality more like wannabe taggers, crossing each other out on the walls and then not doing anything about it in real life. Not that violence should be glorified...but thats all it is.
naw im talkin about the old ass varrio in solana beach. i guess that would be eden gardens. i know an old guy that just died recently and there were some OG ass lookin old vatos &i guess they were from solana beach..
i meant there were some old OGs at his funeral up there ^
Que onda San Diego?
This is "LARRY TMK" ready to Toss Much Knowledge!
tag muthaphukin banging heh...
All this shit was created by jealousy and hate. TMK did do the most work but that was only because we had the most haters against us. back in 87-89 there was no beef and this was the "golden era" of the san diego graph scene. remember the writters meetings at seaport and horton plaza? we got raided a couple of times lol. commercial trolley line was crushed on a nightly basis. back then we used to hang out with the ratas and skanks like seko, fresko, dem, hekno, rocket...etc. the beef began because TMK was taking much kontrol of san diego and all the county. we would always out do them fools and get all the fame, cuz we backed it up! with names like SICK CRUNCH BYSE(HA) CHOKE(KECHO) GRAN USER...etc there was no competition. we took out bsd, we took out wck, we beat out uwk/nvs, and any other crew that step'd to us. by this time seko Ran To Saftey some wheres in north park/golden hills, and thats when he started the rats crew. the LA based skanks crew came into the picture due to a coward bitch that left LA cuz he had the green light on him...phoom ska. fools like fresko and his bsd rejects hung on his dick like balls! rats and skanks sleep in the same bed together because they were all from Boys Suckin Dick. we killed that noise!
TMK never had the intentions to "tag bang", rats and skanks started that shit because they just couldnt handle all the beatings. they got there asses beat because of there large mouths. those chumps acted like llantas, always barking up a storm, especially to the girls. fuckin losers! when it came down to it they would always turn into water. thats why they started shooting at us. fuckin cowards!
TMK started back in 89-90. it was the brain storm of CASE POET VCR. VCR was a crew brought up by my man ZONE VCR TMK WST. they all went there own ways after ZONE joined the military. the story goes...CASE met ASEL while both were racking at the lemon grove office supply. they decided to go to the euclid pit to get up and show off there styles. ASEL had just broken ties with NITES and the short lived crew they founded called NHS (no half steppin). NITES ended up with GI (going insane) and ASEL clicked up with CASE and began reppin TMK. the roll call that day read...CASE ASEL POET COSMO LARRY TMK.
the recruitment process was quick. back then piecing was the shit. we started out that way, bomin was second rate. with the addition of SICK(verse nhs) CRUNCH(ghost uwk) GRAN CHUKO CHOKE(kecho) AND POKES(uwk), TMK began terrorizing the streets and freeways of all san diego(fuck sdpd and cal trans). I still remember the ch 7 news lady begining her story on us with the words "T M K...these three letters can be seen all over san diego county" LOL.
ok mocosos, skools out for now. im going to wrap up this shit with some moe facts. KLOWNIN is the lifestyle of the South East kilks. YOU CANT KLOWN A KLOWN ESE! we call ourselfs KLOWNS por que a KLOWN always has the upper hand on you. we dont dress up funny like them rats and skanks dressing up in all that raver bullshit. white tees and crispy 501's was our norm. we did not entertain people and throw wack ass techno parties trying to impress the women. we ran trains on your hynas...the girls maybe yours but the pussie was ours! we had respect from the gangs in south east, we stayed. you puniales left north of the 94 cuz you couldnt hang. and i dont care if you get all moist or think im cyber banging cuz im just telling the truth, and sometimes that shit hurts.
shot outs to all of the south east barrios and clikas...wasup
UFK
HEM
SEK
ALS
NVS
UWK
FSI
NHS
TOO MUCH KLOWNIN
CASE
HUSH
COSMO
ASEL
LARRY
ZONE
SICK
GRAN
BOO
BISK
ANGER
DOWN
BASE
SEMP
SOBER
DISK
CRUNCH
CHUKO
SENS
LERK
JAY PEE
RASS
PHIKEL
BOM
COMET
DUSK
SPEK
NEKO
BYSE
BURN
KROWN
GOSER
UNO
USER
REPS
HOST
SET
ZODAK
CHOKE
SELF
GRIFO
CAPS
TOKE
CANCEL CRISTMAS!
PANIK
POKES
SOKO
FEME
and two or three punk ass bitches that could take the "blanket party"
wasup
DYSE
CHENO
ZERO
SAKE
QUASAR
ROMEO
PICASSO
ZEKE
SKE
DISNEY
EDEN
and the rest of the first generation of SD writters. peace out!
LARRY TMK 1 SESD
this fucking shit is a trip
TMK
CASE
HUSH
ASEL
SICK
COSMO
LARRY
ZONE
GRAN
SENSE
CRUNCH
ZOMBIE
DEZI
LERK
SEMP
BOO
JAY PEE
BURN
GRIFO
PHIKLEL
CHUKO
BISK
USER
HOST
SET
REPS
ANGER
DISK
SOBER
COMET
DUSK
SPECK
NEKO
TOKE
BYSE
BASE
KROWN
UNO
GOSER
ZODAK
BOM
CAPS
TROUBLE MAKIN KIDZ
THE MEXICAN KLAN
TOO MUCH KLOWNIN
TAKIN MUCH KONTROL
THIS MOB KILLZ
TOO MUCH KAOS
THIEFS MOBBIN KRYLON
THIRTEEN MURDER KASES
TOTAL MIND KONTROL
THE MAIN KINGZ
TOP MOP KREW
TITLES MANY KOVET
TRAMPLING MANY KREWS
THE MADNESS KONTINUES!!!!!!!!!!!!
SAN DIEGOS OG AEROSOL JUNKIE KINGZ.
The shit is that all the old school tagging crews from the nineties started bangin and droped the cans like BRLS that westside crew used to stand for Blastin Rivals , Born Riders , Rebel Riders and other names but Mission Bay had to put the 13 on them because they originated in the streets of Grand avenue Mission Bay and took it up to Clairemont so they turned it to Bay Riders. You can still see the throw ups with BCX or TEW and GM with BR on the 805 freeway
I knew tnk and ska oneday on the 3 bus that me and cloke ska and tron from aek got on the bus and Chuko was on ther and chuko and tron said whut up and were cool but cloak kept sayin fuk clowns and chuko told him to get off the bus andtheyy did and chuko beat up cloke ha ha that was funnyman!
re: this guy down there..
Anonymous said...
Technically, most of those gangs you posted are NOT Southeast. If you look at Logan, it is Actually SOUTHWEST. The hoods that lie SOUTH of Central San Diego and EAST of Central San Diego are Shelltown, Lincoln Park, and a couple others. See, if you travel East to East Side, which is geographically the 40's and 50's blocks (41st, Chamoune, Euclid, 54th Street,) then head south, you run into South East. I don't understand how PH could even BEGIN to say they are Southeast. Lomita is kind of pushing it as well. But how can Logan, which lets say from Chicano Park by the ballpark, call itself Southeast? Or even the 30ta boys? Memorial Park is on 30th, and if you head north you run into Golden Hills. Head West and you hit Sherman. Head south more and you run into the water. So why isn't is called West Side instead of Southeast? Market Street can absolutely claim Southeast as well. Anyone disagree or agree?
ight look. downtown is most widely considered the center of san diego. logan grant hill and sherman are all located on the southeast end of downtown. ignore the waterfront cuz it still works out that way. head a few miles directly east of downtown and your in eastside. its true youi can make the argument that golden hill is directly east of downtown and basically paralell to eastside its still considered southeast because its more connected with southeast
since its right next to sherman. theres no way its connected to eastside its divided by freeways with no bridges. eastside is divided from southeast from home avenue and also ridgeview drive which then turns into altadena ave as it goes north. the border is disputable as altadena branches out into more streets between 54th street euclid and university. lomita and paradise hills is nowhere near eastside. it is in no way connected to eastside. its directly connected to the rest of southeast thats why its SE. same with paradise hills and skyline. southeast is just that big because all those neighborhoods are directly connected to each other with minimal division. the only dispute i have with southeast hoods is oak park. to me thats not really in southeast. oak park is centered between the 94 and elcajon blvd. but to me SE dont start till the streets around federal blvd. but whatever idk.
southeast ends where national city starts. i think the whole southern border of SE borders most of the northern border of national city. logan sherman and grant hill arent westside because westside is away from downtown a little ways up the 5. westside are the hoods of woptown oldtown linda vista clairemont and mission bay. although tese hoods are a little more broken up they are very disconnected to logan sherman and golden hill. the closest would be woptown since it basically starts at the northern end of downtown but it still fits more accordingly to being WS than SE. and then national city is its own incorporated city so it cant be "southwest", whoever said that up there.. same with chula vista. southside is southside because those hoods are technicall in san diego since chula vista ends at main street. so everything south of that is san diego. im not sure if otay is SS or CV tho. i think there hood is technically in the city of chula vista but i think they claim southside sd and beef with vCV. but other than that everything north of main street is CV and everything south of main street is southside san diego.
im sure i left some out and i might not be 100 percent correct so if not i welcome crrections.
Dude Larry, don't try to pump up your old ass crew like it still exists and as if you vatos never got caught slippin. Stop wandering about your mind and slap yourself back to this realm called REALITY.
Let me point out some flaws in your post.
1) You claim you were never involved in that "rave" scene. What a bunch of bullshit. If you remember correctly, UFK, your betterhalf and bedbuddies (duly noted on the SHOUT OUTS LIST YOU PRINTED)were involved in throwing numerous raves as well. Specifically the UF MECCA raves, where DJ RAJA from UF always DJ'd. I remember seeing you fools at those functions chumming it up with UF and SEK.
2) White Tees and 501's the norm? No. How about Gran with his Paisa ass wearing cowboy boots and polyester button downed collared shirts like he was some kind of ghetto vaquero. Fucking RANCHOLO.
3) Let's not forget about SPEK raping a 12 year old girl. You forgot to mention that one didn't you?
4) The list of Southeast Clickas and Varrios you gave shouts to aren't CLICKAS OR VARRIOS. THEY ARE CREWS. By the way, HEM was a TJ crew. REMEMBER THEM WRITING TJ NEXT TO THEIR TAGS? Dumbass.
5) The only Varrio that gave you any kind of love was Sherman and East Side. This was because you were a Sherman based crew, especially since Sick got kicked out of 30ta for supposedly trying to be from Lomas at one point. Sherman did alot of work for you. That is a fact. I seen User at Mission Beach a couple years ago. He was fully claiming Sherman. Remember User grew up in East Side, as did Host. As a previous poster wrote, ES and AEK were fine with TMK and User and Host did hit ES all the time without problems. Plus, Gadget from ES and User were cellys all throughout Juvie and Camp. Let's not forget Kaos from AEK being really close to TMK as well. He was always with ASEL and USER. They were peros.
So as for all the other Southeast Varrios taking a liking to you, you can wipe that statement with your ass. Logan didn't like you, Shelltown certainly didn't, and neither did Lomas. So fix your facts before you open your traphole. You sound like the barking llanta RATAS AND SKANKS you so despise.
And last time I googled, A KLOWN is a performer who wears make up and dresses up in funny clothes and rides around on tiny bikes and entertains the audience. Stay klassy, klown.
-The Marijuana Klub.
Re: Hood Borders.
Thanks man for the clarification. See, I grew up in SD and always thought of CENTRAL SD as the middletown, but come to think of it, Downtown is the hub. The central. So, you make good points on Southeast. Thanks for the explanation. It just doesn't seem plausible that some Neighborhoods can claim Southeast, when geographically they are nowhere NEAR south of Federal or the 94.
I still have issues with the whole Lomas/PH claiming Southeast.
I firmly believe Southeast in all its' purity is Shelltown, but that is only a variable argument. We can take Google, Thomas Bros, and even our own City Recorders office and come up with three different answers. Plus the numerous subdivisions, additions of Villages, and not to mention REDEVELOPER NAMING RIGHTS and you have a whole slew of new names and gentrification shifts. For example, calling the area "East Village" by the ballpark. Simply is, demographically, EAST of the downtown. They call Woptown "MiddleTown" and a recent article in CITYBEAT claimed a developer wanted to rename a section of Logan by Chicano Park "LOGAN VILLAS". Cna you imagine that shit? It is already happening. They took East Side and subdivided it into numerous "Urban Villages" as the redevelopement name is. There is Fairmount Village, Azelea Gardens by Azelea Park, and if you live between Eastside, north of Hoover, you are in TALMADGE. ALL EastSide the same to me. They don't call it Shelltown no more, they call it "SouthCrest". Same thing with National City. PH is already broken up too, as is Spring Valley. Watch the news, and when they give a crime watch, trip out what they call our Neighborhoods nowadays. It is very interesting to see which direction they are trying to spin the neighborhoods. You seem to know your shit. Glad to have another intelligent head spit some real shit instead of the usual Click/Hood shout outs. But for the vatos that do bang these hoods, let us know what you think of hoods being shifted and overlapped. Come correct. Time for me to go get a six pack.
PEACE.
can anybody tell me about VTSK?
LOL...
stay aNONymous mija!
your late to class pendejo!...
1. UF did throw them rave parties, and yes, sometimes we would show up. but thats only for the rucas and drugs. we werent all dancing in fuckin circles and waving glow stix like YOU aNONymous and your chavalitas (rts ska). LOL sucking on a pasifier..pinche putos
2. come on aNONymous...you dont have the skillz to klown you idiot!
i just want to tell you a fact...i know that in you house some wheres
there is a picture of your mascara with your hair parted to the side and wearing some extra medium shit! all tight as fuck. didnt we all dress funky as kidz...or did you always have on your tacuche?
3. what does that shit have to do with growing up writting in the 90's?
no need for that kind of shit....like when....
seko and his red headed bro used to get raped by some vet gang bangers. or heknos faggot ass unkle parting with the rats and skanks. no need, no need at all.
4. KAFE HEM lived in the market area SE. KAMEL HEM...my homie, always put it down with me in the hood (SE). we would hang out at SICK/ASEL house. hit up the SE and the TJ all the time everywhere!
5. this ones very touchy...
first of all, SICK was from 30ta at one point. but he did not leave it because he was claming lomas, you fuckin comadre! dont be posting shit up if you dont know the facts! it was over shit you dont need to know puto. sherman never did any "work" for us. in fact speedy from sherman at that time used to protect dem and rage (skanks) and some ratas too. our jale was our jale!
what about ES...? i dont hear that noise...who cares? aek had there own pedo with sek. all we knew about aek is that they hung out with the skanks and rats, if anything they they were guilty by association.
ok time to kill this shit...
the respect i was talking about is the kind of respect you get when you dont claim otnc then logan then lomas then golden hills then east side! thats what im talking about. then you run away...Retreating To Saftey. you member. yea the klan did have beef with all types of people, crews, and gangs. but that was normal shit. we would get into it with fsi or nvs,and still kept some type of ties with one another. we maintained some type fo mutual respect because we knew that unwritten code. like i said before..rats and skanks began the whole tag-banging shit, and all that shooting. fake ass 32nd shit!
am i lying?
am i fuckin lying?!!!
all im saying is the fuckin truth.... im not bumpin gums!!!
and dont get all bent out of shape mija! giving me the GOOGLE definition! LOL LOL. go back to skool guerco! you know nada of the PAYASIANDO STILO! im gonna say it one more time so listen up aNONymous........ let it go....accept the truth...TMK must of did you dirty or something (are you the vato with the ruca that we gave a freddy kruger baby to?). so what! get over it. take off your diapers and grow up. all of us went through some type of shit, some worse that others. man up mija.....
It will always be TOO MUCH KAOS! till the wheels fall off!!!
FREE HOST!
Posted 20 hours ago. ( permalink |
Larry,
Touchy-touchy are we? A little sensitive there eh? Have you lost your comupter ethics or did you not have any to begin with?
Remember that this forum is to communicate and express point of views. Check your emotional baggage before logging on menso.
So what two types of shit do you care if your homies get put on blast? It is what it is. So much shit on here gets contorted that as long as YOU know how to distinguish real shit from chicken feed, there shouldn't be any fucking problem.
There isn't any way to confirm your Larry, as there isn't anyway for you to know if I Ran The Show, Shot Klown After Klown, or was Another CheESe Kake. One the same to me as you said earlier. Besides, 93K remember? One for all, all for one. UFK TMK SEK!! YEAY! fucking cheerleaders.
My shit wasn't heresay homie. I kick it in South East and know the story behind "Sick". He didn't "leave", he got kicked the fuck out nerd!
You can't keep running circles around your statements ese.
"Oh, we went to Raves but only for the hynas and drugs". What the fuck do you think everyone went for dumbass? THE GIRLS AND DROGAS you lame.
If you thought I was out of line with the "Spek" shit what I am saying is real. I was at that party homie. But I can agree, not the place or time for it.
You aren't my friend or enemy, because I don't know you or give a fuck about the masa you spit anyway.
Your clecha is informative. But if you want to take it to the kindergarten level and call names then suit yourself ese. I take criticism like a grain of salt. I am on the 30 side of life homeboy. This is the internet. Not some fucking party line like the 90's where you guys would get your chones in a bunch over what your hood rat homegirl Noel was saying.
So go dust off the old size 18 clown shoes and put on some lip liner. Stop slouching and sit up straight and pay attention. Look what happens when you don't go to school. You end up in the circus doing...well what else? Klown acts and keeping the audience entertained.
Come back when your all grown up and when your rent has been paid. Living at your abuelitas house and letting your tia pay the bills while you type in the back house doesn't count leva.
Free Host? What the fuck you lame duck?!!!
You sound like those stupid tintos wearing those retarded "FREE VICK" shirts.
Try telling your boys BE A MAN. DO THE CRIME, DO THE TIME. Don't try and wiggle your way out of your circumstances. This life is for grown ups. Get your crayons and keep tagging joven.
If a person is WRONGFULLY CONVICTED does a "free ____" warrant a cry of injustice.
Your too stupid to know the fucking difference. Typical klown. riding a trike in circles jumping out of yugos. "performing for the audience".
-This Mob Kills
YOU TWO SHOULD CALM DOWN YOUER WASTING ALOT OF NEGUTIV ENERGY ON OLD SHIT ANY WAYZ BUT WHO CAREZ? YOU TWO SHOULD SQUASH IT BECUZZ NONE OF IT MATERZ ANYMORE RIGHT? NO FORREAL I AM JUST KICKIN REAL BECUZZ YOU SAY YOU GROEWN AZZ MEN THEN ACT LIKE IT AND YOU SHOULD KNOW ALL ENEMY GET ALONG WHEN YOUR OLDER TOO BUT THATZ JUUST ME ALRIGHT THEN LATES
LOGAN HEIGHTS GANG
LHX3*30TA*33RD*RS
CRAZY LOGAN BOYS
LHRS CPB LHX3 CBS
=12O8 ZONE=
VARRIO LOGAN HEIGHTS
is there a NC13 ?
VARRIO MISSION BAY 13 GANG!!!!
LA COUILLA
WEST UP HOMIE....
STALKER TRIGGER BAT LONELY WOLFY GRAPE-APE SPOTS KLUMZY TEARDROP SOLO KABRON HITMAN SPY POOPY GOOFY BUCKY NERDY SLINKY LUNEE TERMITE FLEA TICK ROBOT RAPPER SMOKES PLAYBOY
AKI PARA VARRIO HILLCREST LOCOS 13. WE USED TO BANG NORTH PARK BUT NOW WE CLAIM HILL CREST. VARRIO HILLCREST SUR 13 LOCOS Y QUE! CATCH US ON 5TH AND UNIVERSITY LEVAS! -SIR POOKY.
THAT NOTORIOUS BARRIO 08X03 GANG OR DONT BANG! HILLCREST LOCOS GANG! WE CHILL ON 5th LEVAS! WE RUN HILLCREST FOOLS!!!
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I remeber FCW. Four Corners of the World. They were a multiethnic gang from south side (SSD). They banged hard in south side in the late eighties and early ninties! Robberies, shootings, homicides-most oldschoolers from SS will remeber the infamous robery spree that a bunch of the homies went on-until SDPD killed Paco at the parking lot of Montgomery High. I used to know a few homies from there. They had whites, blacks, mexicans, pinoys, islanders.... That gang turned mostly pinoy in the early nineties. I guess a lot of the old schoolers from the eighties clicked up with ethinically divided gangs once they got sent to the pen. Some of the balck dudes in it joined crip gangs when they went to county-or the state pens. I think all the white dudes dropped out, and the mexicans clicked up with sureno gangs or dropped out. Then FCW became an almost all pinoy/islander gang. I think it died off in the mid ninties. I remember an older homie said that FCW was started by some black gangsters from Chicago, when they moved to south san diego in the early eighties. They called FC of the World, since the gang had all ethnicities in it, and the gang in Chicago was called 4 Corners. Most of the FCW homies would also run with Syco Posse-and they would call it the Insane Family. I think they also kicked it with Insane Diego Mob when IDM began to come up.
"OTSD//OTNC
Oldtown sd and Oldtown nc are really old barrios that bang the westside of there area.Long ago OTSD and OTNC used to be clicked up and they banged OT"T"NC which stood for Oldtown to National City
this to broke of but they did not turn into enemys in fact they hang out with eachother and both put it down for westside.Some say why do they band west if there in the south? its because they made enemys with VCV,OM,IMP and SY which all banged SSD and they began to bang southwest sandiego which is really not known but towards the 80's they really started writing westside nc and not swxsd.But keep in mind they arnt wsxsd"
you're a fool. there is no connection between them like that. OTNC bangs "Old Town" because they controlled the the older area of NC (relative to the new houses that were being buit east of their hood in the 1950's-1970's). One of the oldest clicks was OTNC Gatos in the 1950's (are they even around anymore?). Have you ever noticed the old victorian houses and buildings on the west side?
OTNC started hittin' up WEST SIDE when newer EAST SIDE NC gangs started poppin' up in the "newer" east side neighborhoods.
WS=IBS, OBS, ATS, EBS, GTS (RIP)
ES=BBS, NCLS, ABS, Stoners (RIP), Yesca Boys (RIP), South Side Mob (RIP)
"whats up with WSLSx3.where they at,i seen it hit up in the chula vista area.wheres their hood at?
and whats up with varrio chula vista(vcv,they ride on each other or what.i heard of those fools blasting each other,whats up with that,blasting at people from your own varrio."
West Side Locos is a new hood in "West" Chula Vista (new to me-I'm in my 40's now). They beef with VCV. They have another click named Sea Vale (WSLS SV, SVLS). At least I have seen that hit up in Eucalyptus Park. Most of the VCV clicks are new to me too. I only new of the K Steet Boys and Grande Locos when i was younger-and I remember when there hood was mostly in the Harborside neighborhood-and they were somewhat deep. Now it looks like they are mostly in the area between L and H streets, west of Broadway, and you don't see that many heads from there. They always had a history of fighting with other gangs that would claim CV, and they would thump on them until they clicked up with VCV. Maybe that's what there clicks are fighting about.
EST in Chula Vista= E Street a VCV clika
"THE ONE AND ONLY GANG IN SOUTHEAST THATS NOT A PART OF LOGAN AND SHERMAN AND STAY BY THE FOUR DEATH CORNERS IN EUCLID AND IMPERIAL IS SOUTHEASTX3LOKOS.. THIS GANG RUNS FROM 43RD STREET TO EUCLID ITS BEEN UP 4 MORE THAN TEN YEARS ...WEN THEY BEGAN THEY WERE DEEP BUT THE COPS BROKE THEM DOWN LOCKING THEM UP.. THEN THE OLDER HEADS CAME OUT AND BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN .... KNOW THERE RECOGNIZE BY A STAMP THAT THEY GOT ON THERE RIGHT AND ITS A CIRCLE WITH A SE IN THE MIDDLE... THATS ALL I GOT TO SAY OF SEX3LKS GANG"
Thay also had a samll clika in Chula Vista in the Hilltop and Naples area, probably only 10 heads deep. That clika was rowdy! They were around from 1992-about 2000. They got shut down due to a bunch of homicides. I remember that they used to blast on VCV, El Cajon Dukes, Shelltown (even though they used to be cool with 38 and Gamma), Encanto Locos, and some foolio gang called Castle Park Mob. I rember there used to be eses from there named Casper, Happy, Bandit, Chico, and Bala. Happy and Bandit are doing life now for killing a ese from VCV and a El Cajon Duke. Chico is always locked up for crazy shit, and Casper (a white boy) flipped his lid, and is all crazy talking to himself now. I heard Bala is the only onf rom that crew that made it out into a decent life.
what is FSI? I see that hit up with Logan sometimes?
Wasn't there another set back in the day PBV (PB VERMIN) that used have it out with MBls?
FSI was/is a crew from Logan that stands for Feeling So Irie. They are a very old school crew from SouthEast. They are Logan confederates.
PBv aka Pacific Beach Vernin St
is a multicultural gang basiclly with Mexicans , Whites and Asians
old school gang but died out in the 80's. Beef with vMB i dont think so. MB gang is another old skool dating back to the 70's from what is said
BARRIO CARLSBAD X 13
sinCe 1968
313 x vCMLSx111
San Diego
Carlos x Malos x 13
tK all day
puro BARRIO CARLOSxMALOSx13
vCARLSBADx111
since 1968
hey, lonewolf
what do you know about barrio carlsbad?
are you serious? hillcrest ls? is that a joke? im not hating, i just wanna kno if that was serious. cuz its territory thats kinda close to woptown, is there any conflict or anything? and whats this "downtown locos" nonsense. someone posted that shit a few posts up, but then i actually saw a downtown13Ls hit up down in downtown.. wtf.
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