5/31/13

L.A. COUNTY SIDES

This whole east side this, west side that., it serves a purpose., but it gets just mad confusing sometimes., por ejemplo, dog town., the older gente from the proyects all claim east side., some of the newer gente starting like in the 70s, claimed west side for the mere fact that the pjs landed on the wrong side of the river when the leeve was built., but dog town has very little to do with the west side other than having some pleitos with some., and then there's the nela/monte vista side which claims nela every day, even if the ogs are all from the pjs., if anything they should of just claimed east side because at the time when dog town set up up shop right there, there was also varrio NELA 13 around., besides that, back then, nobody really claimed nela., you would not catch an Avenues claiming nela., all that nela side came afterwards., so things change i suppose., just like that whole area code deal., from 213 to 310 to 323., hope your leave a piece of your sleeves clean for the next area code., right!?


IN THE WORLD OF VARRIOS, IT'S A TRIPPY THING HOW ALL "SIDES" AND "AREAS" BREAK DOWN IN A CITY LIKE L.A.

YOU GOT THE EAST SIDE, THE WEST SIDE, THE SOUTH SIDE, THE HARBOR AREA, SOUTH CENTRAL, THE SGV, THE 818, ETC, ETC.

BUT EACH ONE OF THOSE "SIDES" OR "AREAS" BREAK DOWN EVEN FURTHER, AND SOME VARRIOS CLAIM ONE SIDE WHEN THEY'RE COMPLETELY IN A DIFFERENT ZONE, OR EVEN CLAIM ONE THING, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE CLAIMING SOUTH CENTRAL, WHILE THE NEXT DOOR VARRIO CLAIMS SOUTH SIDE.

A RIVER, A FREEWAY, SOME HILLS, A CITY ZONE, THEY ALL SERVE TO BREAK DOWN THE CITY INTO DIFFERENT SIDES, AND IT'S ALL A TRIPPY THING., I GUESS YOU GOT TO REALLY GET INTO IT TO MAKE SENSE OUT OF IT ALL.

IN OLD CITY TIMES YOU HAD WHAT THE GABACHOS CONSIDERED EAST L.A., BUT THE EAST L.A. BACK IN THOSE OLD TIMES WAS NOT THE SAME EAST L.A. OF PRESENT TIMES (MARAVILLA/BELVEDERE/CITY TERRACE), NOPES, THE EAST L.A. BACK THEN WAS LINCOLN HEIGHTS., AND THEN THERE WAS THE GREATER EAST SIDE THAT WENT FROM ECHO PARK, ELYSIAN HILLS, AND TEMPLE BEAUDRY ON TO THE EAST GOING BEYOND THE RIVER AND UP TO THE HILLS STRETCHING FROM EAGLE ROCK TO BELVEDERE., EVEN THE IMMEDIATE AREA KNOWN AS THE LOW BOTTOMS (SOUTH CENTRAL L.A.) JUST SOUTH OF THE DOWNTOWN SKYLINE WAS CONSIDERED EAST SIDE.

WITH THE TIMES, THINGS HAVE CHANGED, AND NOW EVERYONE CONSIDERS THE EAST SIDE TO BE ALL EAST OF THE L.A. RIVER, FROM LINCOLN HEIGHTS TO WINTER GARDENS. BUT EVEN THE EAST SIDE TODAY IS BROKEN UP INTO EAST LOS AND EAST L.A. PROPER.

EAST L.A. PROPER IS MARAVILLA/BELVEDERE, CITY TERRACE, EASTMONT AND WINTER GARDENS, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF UNINCORP EAST L.A., BUT THE EAST SIDE LOS AREA INCLUDES BOYLE HEIGHTS, LINCOLN HEIGHTS, BROOKLYN HEIGHTS, ROSE HILLS, HAPPY VALLEY, EL SERENO, AND WYVERNWOOD.

BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE REST OF THE OLD EAST SIDERS IN NORTH EAST L.A. STILL CLAIMING TO BE PART OF THE EAST SIDE., MAINLY THOSE FROM HIGHLAND PARK, CYPRESS PARK, GLASSELL PARK, ARROYO SECO, AND MOUNT WASHINGTON., BUT THEN YOU WOULD LEAVE OUT OTHER AREAS WHICH ARE CONSIDERED TO BE PART OF N.E.L.A. POLITICS BUT ARE NOT NECESSARILY "EAST SIDERS"., AMONG THOSE ARE RIVERDALE, ATWATER AND ATWATER VILLAGE., WHICH BRINGS US TO THE QUESTION OF THE WEST SIDE.,

THERE'S WHAT IS CONSIDERED WEST SIDE, THEN THERE IS WEST LOS OR WEST L.A., WEST LOS (WEST LA) WOULD BE THOSE AREAS AND CITIES LIKE SANTA MONICA, VENICE, CULVER CITY AND SAWTELLE, AND THEN YOU THROW IN THERE WITH THE MIX THE COMMUNITIES OF MAR VISTA, PALMS, RANCHO PARK AND WEST LOS ANGELES PROPER., ALTHOUGH THEY ARE ALL TECHNICALLY WEST SIDE, ~> THE ACTUAL REDUCED "WEST SIDE" IS REALLY CONSIDERED TO BE JUST THE AREA CLOSER TO DOWNTOWN L.A. LIKE WESTLAKE, RAMPART VILLAGE, PICO UNION, KOREA TOWN, FILIPINO TOWN, ECHO PARK, LOS FELIZ, SILVER LAKE, WEST ADAMS, MID CITY, WILSHIRE, EAST HOLLYWOOD AND EVEN HOLLYWOOD ITSELF.,

EVERYTHING NORTH OF THE 10 FREEWAY, ALL THE WAY TO THE HOLLYWOOD HILLS, THAT'S THE WEST SIDE, ALTHOUGH VARRIOS SOUTH OF THE 10 FREEWAY ALSO CONSIDER THEIR AREA PART OF THE WEST SIDE, LIKE THE ONES IN THE COMMNUNITIES OF OLYMPIC PARK, JEFFERSON, WEST ADAMS AND MCMANUS.
BUT THE AREA OF L.A. BETWEEN THE 10 FWY, THE HARBOR FWY, THE CENTURY FWY, AND THE 405 FWY CAN BE SOMEWHAT OF A DILEMA. MOST VARRIOS IN THIS AREA CLAIM WEST SIDE, BUT SOME CLAIM SOUTH CENTRAL, AND SOME EVEN CLAIM SOUTH SIDE, ALL THE WHILE THE WHOLE AREA IS CONSIDERED TO BE "SOUTH WEST" SOUTH CENTRAL, OR EVEN THE WEST SIDE OF THE SOUTH SIDE, AND NOT REALLY PART OF THE WEST LOS WEST SIDE.,

THEN THERE'S THE SOUTH SIDE.,HERE IT GETS EVEN TRICKIER WITH THE WHOLE SOUTH L.A. DEAL, YOU HAVE THOSE THAT CLAIM SOUTH SIDE, THEN YOU HAVE THE ONES THAT CLAIM SOUTH CENTRAL, THEN YOU HAVE SOME THAT EVEN CLAIM CLAIM EAST SIDE., CASE EXAMPLES EAST SIDE CLANTON 14 STREET AND EAST SIDE PLAYBOYS.

FROM THE LOW BOTTOMS ON THE NORTH END, TO SOUTH LOS AND WATTS ON THE SOUTH END, TO THE L.A. RIVER ON THE EAST END, INCLUDING COLONIA VERNON, HUNTINGTON PARK, BELL, MAYWOOD, CUDAHY, SOUTH GATE, LYNWOOD, AND EVEN BELL GARDENS, THAT'S ALL CONSIDERED SOUTH SIDE L.A., THE GRAND EXCEPTION IS COMPTON (THE HUB), THEY CLAIM THEIR OWN, AND COMMUNITIES LIKE WILLOBROOK AND LYNWOOD GARDENS RIDE WITH THE HUB.

WHEN YOU GET PAST COMPTONE, YOU GET INTO WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE HARBOR AREA TODAY, BUT IN REALITY THE O.G. HARBOR AREA USED TO BE SOLELY THE TOWNS OF SAN PEDRO, WILMINGTON, LONG BEACH AND HARBOR CITY, THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE HARBOR AREA, BUT WITH TIMES OTHER TOWNS GOT HITCHED UP TO THE LABEL AND NOW ROLL WITH THE HxA HANDLE, LIKE LOMITA, CARSONE, TORRANCE, THE HARBOR GATEWAY AND GARDENA., IT BECAME SO THAT EVEN HAWTHORNE, LAWNDALE AND REDONDO MAY NOW CLAIM HxA.

HERE'S THE THING, THE WHOLE HxA IS ALL PART OF THE GREATER SOUTH BAY AREA, AND THE SOUTH BAY INCLUDES TOWNS LIKE LAKEWOOD, BELLFLORES AND EVEN PARAMOUNT, BUT NONE OF THOSE TOWNS CLAIM HxA.
WHICH BRINGS US TO THE NEXT AREA WHICH INCLUDES PARAMONTE, ARTESIA, HAWAIIAN GARDENS, BELLFLOWER AND DOWNEY. WHAT SIDE OR AREA DO THEY CLAIM? THEY'RE NOT HxA, THEY'RE NOT REALLY SOUTH SIDE L.A. AND THEY'RE NOT S.E.L.A. NEITHER., SO WHAT SIDE DO THEY CLAIM TO BE?

EVERYTHING NORTH OF THE 91 FWY AND EAST OF THE RIO HONDO IS CONSIDERED TO BE SOUTH EAST L.A., FROM NORWALK-LA MIRADA TO PICO RIVERA-WHITTIER IT'S ALL SOUTH EAST L.A.

THEN YOU GET INTO THE S.G.V. CAR, WHICH STRETCHES FROM PASADENA ALL THE WAY EAST TO LA VERNE, WITH POMONA ABSTAINING AND CLAIMING THEIR OWN.

PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT BASSETT, LA PUENTE, WALNUT, VALINDA, HACIENDA HEIGHTS AND ROWLAND SHOULD GO UNDER THEIR OWN HANDLE, THE PUENTE VALLEY HANDLE, BECAUSE THIS AREA IS WAY DISTANT FROM FAR OFF PLACES LIKE LA VERNE AND PASADENA. BUT SURE THING, THE OTHER TOWNS LIKE BOLEN, EL MONTE, SAN GRA, AZUSA, SAN DIMAS, DUARTE, WEST COVINA AND ROSEMEAD/SOUTH SG. SHOULD STAY SUR GANSTRO VALLEY., BUT PASADENA IS NOT ALL THERE WITH THE MAIN SGV AREA, SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEM.

THE LAST AREA YOU GOT LEFT IN L.A. IS THE NORTH VALLEY, A.K.A. THE 818 (SAN FERNANDO VALLEY), BUT THE SFV IS A HUGE CHUNK OF TERRITORY, AND IT CAN BE BROKEN DOWN INTO MID-VALLEY, WEST VALLEY, AND THE SAN FER/SYLMAR/PACAS AREA ON THE NORTH EAST PART OF THE VALLEY.

BUT WHAT ABOUT BURBANK? ALTHOUGH BERBANK IS PART OF THE 818, THEY CAN NOT REALLY BE ON PAR WITH THE REST., BURBANK SHOULD MAYBE BE LUMPED IN TOGETHER WITH GLENDALE AND SUNLAND-TUJUNGA TO FORM THEIR OWN.. I DON'T KNOW.. I'M JUST SAYING.. SOME PLACES ARE HARD TO SQUARE IN WITH THE MAIN SIDE OR AREA..


It’s a trippy thing how all that claiming this side or that side works. For most hoods it is automatic what side they fall on, and by default, what side they claim. For other hoods, it is a pride thing, like pride for their city or their town. Still for some, it is about the notoriety of a place, a place which is not really confined to city maps or government boundaries (like the southwest and mexico). It doesn’t matter where the geographic line is drawn, that’s like a line in the sand. Neighborhoods are connected to the streets, and how those streets are connected is way more than simply parallel or horizontal lines drawn on a map to define a zone. In example, the Harbor Area, in ordinary regular civilian circles, the Harbor Area can also be called the South Bay, but in the world of L.A. Condado ranflas, the HxA is way more exclusive as to who claims it as its side.

The original Harbor Area was made up of four towns; San Pedro, Harbor City, Wilmas and Longo., that was it, but with time and the evolution of claiming sides, other towns latched on to the handle; Lomita, Torrance, Carson, Gardena, and the whole Gateway. Which I might add here that nobody in the HxA ever calls it the Gateway, that’s Torrance and Gardena plain and simple.

It is clear why North Side Longo and Dominguez Varrio would jump into the HxA car, but it is not so clear, at least from the outside looking in, as to why Little Lawndale and Hawthorne would do so, or for that matter even Redondo, since they’re all out there in sort of like their own side away from the main HxA focus points east of Crenshaw. A little limbo as to what side those towns are for reals; but who calls it? Who decides what side to claim? Comptone next to Gardena ain’t never claimed nothing other than The Hub., and both Paras, Bellflower or Lakewood to my knowledge also ain’t never claimed HxA, even though they are clearly in the South Bay geographical zone.

So how does it work in the calles., when, why and who decides for a varrio or town what side to claim?

Lennox and Inglewood decided on west side instead of south side or harbor area, but why didn’t they ever create a ‘west bay’ or something like that, together with the west los towns like Santa, Sotel, Venice, Culver City and Rancho Park? That probably would have been more appropriate, but the monster has multiple heads, and it is complicated but yet simple to understand.

Me entiendes?

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hawaiian Gardens, Artesia, Paramount, and Bellflower to claim SELA. These Gangs do claim South East Los Angles. Know some of them, and seen the hittups with my own eyes.

I know Redondo has been claiming the harbor for decades but not too sure about Little Watts (Hawthorne) or ESL (Eastside Lawndale.

Anonymous said...

YeaH that's true HARBORC1tY wilmington san pedro and long beaCH were originals of hxa because of being close to the port of LA/lb. but nowdays anyone can be it. when south bay gangs broke ties redondo lawndale lil mobsters sur13 gang claim hxa. lil watts is west los. we don't get along witH none of tHem, VHXCR nomas

Anonymous said...

WEST LOS HAWTHORNE LIL WATTS 13.never been hxa for all those who wanted to know

Anonymous said...

WESTSIDE HAWTHORNE LIL WATTS GANG FAB BLS TLS DMS IS WEST LOS

El Jaguar Garcia said...

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Anonymous said...

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