SAN DIEGO VARRIOS
SY ~ SYR
SAN YSIDRO
A.k.a. “SIDRO”
Klikas . . .
Coachmen
Enanos
Villa Locos
Locotes
Tiny Locos
Lil Locos
Malos
Boys
Note: For some of SIDRO's history read up on the March 17, 2007 "Archives".
IMP ~ IMP13
IMPERIAL 13
A.k.a. Imperials
Klikas . . .
Dukes
Rascals
BWL ~ BWLS
BRANDYWINE LOCOS
O13 ~ OX3 ~ VLO
OTAY 13A.k.a. Varrio Loco Otay
Klikas . . .
Yatos
Del Sol Riders
River Bottom Locos
Montgomery Locos
Rasta Locos
DS ~ DSR ~ DS13
DEL SOLKlikas . . .
Vagos
Malos
Dead Ends
Riders Locos
Sun City Locos
RC ~ RCLS ~ SSR
RUFF CITYA.k.a. South Side Roughnecks
A.k.a. Rough Riders
CALS
Crazy Ass Locos
PALS
Palm Avenue Locos
PALS
Palm City Locos
FH ~ PC ~ PC’FH
PALM CITY FROM HELL
A.k.a. Familia Hispana
Klikas . . .
Locos
VLPR
LAS PALMAS
Varrio LAS PALMAS was an old varrio located in the South San Diego neighborhood of Palm City. The old varrio extended south of the Otay River marshland area, all the way to Coronado Avenue, centered around Palm Avenue and Harris Avenue. The neighborhood once reached as far west to 19 Street (present day Saturn Blvd). The old varrio was in time first broken up with the construction of Interstate 5, which was built right through the middle of the neighborhood and sliced it up into two halves. The western part of the varrio (west of I-5) was almost completely torn down and new development was raised up. Then when the San Diego Trolley line was built, another chunk of its neighborhood was destroyed. The Trolley line itself cut the varrio in half again. On the east side of the tracks new housing now stands. But on the west side of the tracks there still remains plenty of unpaved (dirt) streets even to this day. South of Palm Avenue the grounds there exhibit a mix of older homes and newer apartment buildings south along the back streets from Harris Avenue. Varrio Las Palmas survived all the way up to the very early 80s, but it has now given way to the younger generation of Raza that claims Palm City From Hell (Familia Hispana). In its final days, one could see nice firme big block Old Stilo Placasos on the walls as you rode past on the freeway or the trolley line. Further south along the 19 Street neighborhood, west of the I-5, La Raza gave birth to the Varrio NESTOR 19ST, in what was once inhabited by vatos that claimed South San Diego. From west of the I-5 and south of Palm Avenue, Varrio NSTR (Nestor Nineteenth STreet Rifa) governs the land.
NST ~ NSTR ~ NST19
NESTOR 19 STREET
VIA
Varrio Iris Avenue
DML
DAIRY MART LOCOS
SSD ~ DX3 ~ D13 ~ DBS
SOUTH SIDE DIABLOSA.k.a. Chamukos
VCV
VARRIO CHULA VISTA
Klikas . . .
Grande Locos
Tiny Locos
Tiny Gangsters
E STreet
G STreet
H STreet
K STreet
South Bay 13
WSLS
WEST SIDE LOCOS
YESCA 13
You have to go back in time to remember the vatos that claimed YESCA 13. Back in the mid to late 70s these vatos where claiming ESxNC. They had their spot just north of the ACRE BOYS and west of PARADISE HILLS, over by Lanoitan Avenue. I don't think they're around anymore.
ES’NCLS
East Side NATIONAL CITY LOCOS
OTNC
OLD TOWN NATIONAL CITY
Klikas . . .
Gatos
Night Owls
Anchor Boys
Olden Boys
Enano Boys
Latino Boys
Insane Boys ~> broke off.
IBS ~ WS’NC
INSANE BOYS
A.k.a. West Side National City
BBS ~ NC’BBS
BLOCK BOYS
(Alta Vista neighborhood)
ABS
ACRE BOYS
(Lincoln Acres)
ALLEY BOYS
(Norton Avenue Boys)
SSC
SOUTH SIDE CRIMINALS
NC MOB 13
NATIONAL CITY MOB 13
A.K.A. South Side Mob 13
MB13 ~ MBLS
MISSION BAY LOCOS
Klikas . . .
Grand Avenue Boys
Delrey Street Boys
132 Dead End
Hazard
The Magicians Club
CMR ~ CLMT WEST CLARAS
(Clairemont)
LV13 ~ LVR ~ VLV
VARRIO LINDA VISTA
Klikas . . .
Morley Street
Rascals
Peewees
Riders
Tiny Locos
WT ~ WxT
WOP TOWN
Klikas . . .
Krazies
Amici Park
OTSD
OLD TOWN SAN DIEGO
LM26 ~ GH13
LOMAS 26 STREETA.k.a. Golden Hill
Klikas
Locos (The Alley)
XVI STreet
XVIII Sreet
XXX STreet
Juniors (Chicos)
Dukes
Malditos
Note: For some of LOMAS history, read up on the March 2, 2006 "Archives".
SM ~ VSM ~ BSM
BARRIO SHERMANA.K.A. Sherman Heights
Klikas . . .
27 STREET
20 STREET
Grant Hill Park Locos
Note: For some of SHERMAN's history, read up on the March 10, 2006 "Archives".
SE13 ~ SESD
SOUTHEAST 13
A.k.a. South East San Diego
ESD ~ ESSD
EAST SIDE SAN DIEGOA.k.a. East Side Diego
Klikas . . .
Gatos
Rascals
Chicos
Dead End Locos
AEK
Avenue Euclid Klika
EBS ~ EBK
Evil Boys Klika
East Side 27 Street Locos
JRS ~ JRS13
JUNIORS
VC13
VARRIO CHOLLAS 13
VM ~ VMS ~ VML ~ VMP
VARRIO MARKET STREETKlikas . . .
Locos
Peewees
VEL ~ ENC13
VARRIO ENCANTO LocosA.k.a. Encanto Heights
LH ~ LHTS
LOGAN HEIGHTSKlikas . . .
Red Steps
A.k.a. Barrio Logan30’TA
33 STreet
35 STreet
13 Locos
LH CLIKA (East Side)
Old . . .
32 LUCKIES
Cherries
Chicanos
Osos
Lobos
Coyotes
Toros
Note: For some of the RED STEPS history, read up on the March 4, 2007 "Archives".
32ND STREET “TOKERS”
LVR ~ LV13 ~ LV70 ~ ESL
LOMITA VILLAGEA.k.a. Lomita Varrio 70
(East Side Lomita)
Klikas . . .
PH ~ PHR ~ PH13
PARADISE HILLS
LG13 ~ VLG
VARRIO LEMON GROVE
OPLS
OAK PARK LOCOS
AZN ~ CHTS
AZTEC NATION(City Heights)
Klikas . . .
Van Dyke Boys
VST ~ STR ~ ST38
SHELL TOWNKlikas . . .
Gamma Boys
38 STreet
DSL
DIVISION STREET LOCOS
SVL
SPRING VALLEY LOCOS
EL CAJON DUKES
EL CAJON LOCOS
PSL ~ PZL ~ VPL
VARRIO POSOLE
Varrio POSOLE, sometimes spelled Pozole, is a real old varrio that dates back to the 1920s. This varrio is well known and heard about through out Califas and in la torcida. Posole is said to be in their sixth or seventh generation of vatos representing their terreno. From old times the initials for the varrio were PSL and PZL, but in these later tiempos the initials VP, VPL and VPLS for Varrio Posole Locos are being used. The olden varrio is located right before you hit Camp Pendleton, immediately east of Interstate 5 and north of Mission Avenue; just south of the old San Luis Mission Road (present day 76 Expressway), centered around Balderama Park. Their borders today can be said to extend all the way south to Oceanside Blvd, and east all the way to Mesa Road. Posole claims East Side because they are in what back in them times was considered the east side of Oceanside.
TCS ~ CSG
TWENTY CENTER STREETA.k.a. Center Street Gang
SOUTH SIDE OCEANSIDE
VST ~ VSL
VARRIO SUREñO TOWN
A.k.a. Varrio Sureño Locos
EAST SIDE OCEANSIDE(Crown Heights)
PPLS
POCOS PERO LOCOS
LOS JOKERS
WOS
WICKED OCEANSIDE SUREñOS
TRI-CITY LOCOS
EG
EDEN GARDENSA.k.a. La Colonia
EF
ENCINITAS FLATS
ENC13
ENCINITAS 13South Side Locos
CBR ~ CBLS ~ CLS
CARLSBAD LOCOS
SSV
SOUTH SIDE VISTA
VH ~ VHB
VISTA HOMIESA.k.a. Vista Homeboys
SM ~ VSM
VARRIO SAN MARCOSKlikas . . .
Wolfpack
SL ~ SxL
Varrio SOUTH LOS
FBLS ~ VFLS
VARRIO FALLBROOK LOCOS
VM ~ VML
VARRIO MESA LOCOS
TH
THUNDER HILLS
EVD
ESCO VIEJO DIABLOS
ESCO SANTOS
VCG
VALLEY CENTRO GANG
WSG
WEST SIDE GANG
AVL
ALPINE VARRIO LOCOS
SANTEE ORIGINALS
VPL
VARRIO PEñASQUITOS LOCOS
Note: The San Diego Varrios and their Clikas
are listed in order to give recognition to them.
The list may not be 113% correct, therefore I
apologize for any mistakes made, for it is not
my intent to diss anybody or clown around. . .
Si salio mal esta madre, pues ponle unas letras
aqui ese.. Nobody knows it better than your own,
asi es que no cagues el palo and if you care to,
pues dejate caer con un aliviane ~ keep in mind~>
~> "Don't Be A Net'Banger" . . . This sitio ain't
made for that ese . . . So keep it level minded.
1,022 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1022 Newer› Newest»FSI is old writing krew from Logan & was down fo theirs. PB Vermin was skaters & sufer rockers that drank,smoked party & whatever. i knew lotta the og dudes, wasn't really a gang in the sense of gangbangin thoe. fist fights and drunken brawls.sum the dudes came from neighborhood rite down the alley from MBLocos. vermin kicked it down @ beach.
by the way 93'K was APS,SEK,GI'K
Thats true but PBV was all about parting and shit and MBLS was all about banging, there was also some taggers from Cass Street down in MB that used to write 5150 Cass St with the Westside Sandiego but not around anymore because many turned into WSxFK and they kick it with Mission Bay gang
VARRIO POSOLE TOWn ¢K
PURO SAN DIEGO INSANE CRIMINALS KLIQUEROS 9311 RIFANDO ICK LS!
puro san diego insane criminals kliqueros 9311 rifando!
SAN DIEGO ICK LS
i see alotta people r askin questions about east san diego gangs so maybe i can help... im a youngster so im not sure if everythin im sayin is right but im pretty sure i know more than most of these foos on here just talkin outta their ass...
ESD is the hood... and in that hood theres alot of clicks
(Rascals, Evilboys, DA, Gatos, Dead End Locos, AE, Vagos) and thats not even all of em...
AN LS stands 4 "aztec nation locos" its not a taggin crew... its a gang in city heights but not part of ESD... AN beefs it with the ES gangs... pretty much all the gangs in city heights that dont rep eastside (JRS, ICK, VDK, AN) r nothin compared 2 ESD...
and Eastsiders dont claim city heights even though thats where the hood started, which is probably cuz when the lame ass jrs., vandyke click, ick and all that shit started comin around they started claimin city heights...
ESD is probably the most hated gang in all of San Diego County...
n thats cuz they still r and always have been puttin in the most work!
alotta people on here r askin about gangs in Eastside San Diego... im just a youngster but i probably know more than most of these foos on here flappin there lips trynna look hard so ill drop some facts!
City Heights is Considered Eastside San Diego, but no gangsters from ESD will say they're from city heights...
and im pretty sure thats becuz when jrs., vandyke click, AN, ICK, n all that shit started claimin city heights, the original city heights gang (ESD) just stuck 2 sayin they were from eastside n not city heights cuz those r all enemies...
ESD is a big hood wit a bunch of different clicks (Rascals, Gatos, Evilboys, DA, AE, Vagos, Dead End Locos) just 2 name a few... n im pretty sure theres a prison gang from ESD called diablos...
Rascals, Gatos, and AELS (formerly AEK) r the older clicks..
DA has been around 4 a while 2.. Evilboys is a newer click but still been around 4 a while.. and vagos is the newest click that just started and has most of the members of wat used 2 be ESD13's...
AN LS isnt a taggin crew either... its a gang n it stands 4 "aztec nation locos"... its in City Heights but they beef it with the ES gangs..
nobody really calls it "EBK" anymore... it stood 4 "evil boys klick" but now everybody just calls it EBS (Evilboys)..
ESD is hated by pretty much every gang in the county.. simply 4 the fact its one of the downest and most active hoods in SD.
UPPER SAN DIEGO COUNTY GANGS
SAN MARCOS CA:
-VARRIO SAN MARCOS GHOST TOWN
-SAN MARCOS WOLFPACK
-varrio south los (they claim south l.a.)
ESCONDIDO CA:
-WEST SIDE GANG
-ESCO VIEJO DIABLOS
VISTA CA:
-VISTA HOME BOYS
OCEANSIDE:
-VARRIO POSOLE LOCOS
-VARRIO MESA LOCOS
-CENTER STREET GANG
CARLSBAD CA:
-carlsbad malos
ENCINITAS CA:
-ecinitas t-flats
FALLBROOK CA:
-barrio fallbrook locos
those are the main MEXICAN gangs in UPPER COUNTY.
UPPER COUNTY GANGS have more gang injunctions than any other part in SAN DIEGO COUNTY. why is that???
To the youngster who posted about East Side, that is some good clecha. Drop some more on who is beffing with who in East Side. So how did DA come to form?
Also, I remember Evil Boys and EBK were to separate entities. now they are one? Just asking.
EBK was a late 90s tagger crew. They split off from UIS in like 1997... NESIB CLONE SMACKS DEEPS etc.
Yeah, i heard they became a gang not too long afterwards.
One Eastside gang you didnt mention(at least I THINK they are an eastside gang) is LHC (Logan Heights Clicka). I was wondering what the deal is with those fools cause the area they seem to be located at is actually nowhere near Logan Heights.
UIS? tell me more
LHxCLk Cricket
1302 LS (B. Mission Bay Locos)
5/9 Brims
73 LS (73rd Street Locos)
ABH (Always Blazin Herbs)
ABK (Alcoholics Brown Krew)
ABS (Acre Boys)
AD (Aerosol Destruction)
AEK (Avenue Euclid Klika, Always Enforcing Kaos, Another Evil Kreation, Above Every Krew)
AIB (Asian Insane Boys)
AIC (Artists In Crime, Always In Control)
AK (Aerosol Kids, Acid Kids)
AN LS (Aztec Nation Locos)
APS (Aerosol Psychos)
ATLK (Actively Taggin Lunatics Krew)
ATR (Asian Thug Riders)
ATS (Antigos)
AVL (Alpine Varrio Locos)
B.LVX3 (Barrio Linda Vista)
BAP (Brown and Proud)
BBH (Bros Before Hoes)
BBS (Block Boys)
BC (Beyond Crazy)
BCX (Burn Crush Execute)
BDB (Be Down Boys)
BLM (Bird Land Mob)
BNB (Bahala Na Barkada)
BNG (Bahala Na Gang)
BR (Bay Riders)
BSD (Bomin San Diego, Being So Destructive)
BSM (Barrio Sherman)
BTC (Bombin’ The City)
BWL, BWLS (BrandyWine Locos)
CAC (Chamone Ave. Crips)
CALS (Crazy Ass Locos)
CBR, CBLS, CLS (Carlsbad Locos)
CHB (Cant Hold Back)
CN (Cloud Nine)
CO (Crazy Ones)
CP (Causing Panic)
CPB (Chicano Park Boys)
CYS (Crazy Young Syndrome, Caught You Slipping)
DC (Don’t Care)
DFA (Down For Anything, Don’t Fuck Around)
DFC (Down For Crime)
DFM (Down For Mine)
DMLX3 (Dairy Mart Locos)
DNA (Daily New Artists, Diego Needs Aerosol)
DOA (Demons Of Art)
DSL (Division Street Locos)
DSX3 (Del SolX3)
DTK (Down To Kill)
DVS (Devious)
DYH (Dissn Yo Hood)
EBT (Escondido Boys Town)
ECHL (El Cajon Hood Lums)
EDM (East Daygo Mob)
EF (Encinitas Flats)
EG (Eden Gardens)
EGP (Easy Going Pinoys)
ELE∙VE∙X3 (LVX3 in spanish)
ENCX3 (Encanto HeightsX3)
ENCX3 (EncinitasX3)
ESDAX3 (East San Diego AztecsX3)
ESDX3 (East Side DiegoX3)
ESP (East Side Piru aka Skyline Piru)
ES∙NCLS (East Side National City Locos)
EV (Everlasting Vandals, Extremely Vicious)
EVD (Esco Viejo Diablos)
FBI (Forever Being Insane, Fuck Being Indicted)
FBK (Forever Boming Krew, Familia Bien Kabrona)
FBLS, vFLS (Varrio Fallbrook Locos)
FH (Familia Hispana) or PCFH (Palm City From Hell)
FK (Forever Kings, Freeway Killers)
FMK (Fumando Mota Krew, Forever Murder Klowns)
FO (Fuck Off, Faded Off Chronic)
FSB/FSBK (Freestyle Bombers)
FSI (Feeling So Irie)
FTS (Fuck The System)
FWR (Fuck What’s Right)
GBS (Gamma Boys)
GDP X3 (Get Down PosseX3)
GI (Gone Insane, Get Irie, Graffiti's Illest)
GLS (Grande Locos)
GMK (Gas Mask Killas)
Gst (G Street)
HB (Hell Bound)
HBG (Holy Blood Gang)
HEM (Hecho En Mexico)
HK (Hispanic Klan)
HML (Hemlock)
IBS (Insane Boys)
ICKX3 (Insane Criminal Klicka)
IDM (Insane Diego Mob)
IK (Insane Kings, Irie Kings)
IMPX3 (ImperialX3)
IPT (Insane Pinoy Tribe)
ISR (Its So Real)
JMB (Juice ‘em Boys)
JRSX3 (Juniors X3)
JVC (Junior Vandal Crew)
KBP (Kick Back Posse, Krazy Bombing Posse)
KDK (Kuduku)
KI (Killer Instinct)
KLB (Kalaban)
KOE (Knock Out Everytime)
KOS (Kings Of Style, Knockin Out Suckers)
KP (Krazy Payasos)
KTC (Killin The City, Killin The Competition)
KTK (Kill The Kops, Kausing Total Kaos, Kiss These Knuts)
KVR (Kreating Vandalized Ruins)
LCG (Lil Crip Gang)
LGS (Little Gangsters)
LH 30/33 (Logan Heights 30th, 33rd street)
LHC (Logan Heights Click)
LH∙RS X3 (Logan Heights Red StepsX3)
LHX3 (Logan HeightsX3)
LM26 (LOMAS 26th street) or GHX3 (Golden HillX3)
LP (Lincoln Park)
LPR (Las Palmas)
LSC/LSCK (L Street Click)
LVC (Linda Vista Crip)
LW (Lyrical Writers)
LWI (Living With Insanity)
MBK (Martin Block Krew)
MBX3 (Mission Bay X3)
MC (Mission Click)
MC aka MAD Crew (Masters At Destruction)
MDR (My Daily Routine, Making Dreams Reality, More Damage Regardless)
MFB (Midnight Freight Bombers, Mexicans Fucking Bitches, My Fat Balls)
NBLS (Nutty Block Locos)
NC MOBX3 (National City MobX3)
NFR (No Fucking Respect, No Fucking Remorse)
NHS (No Half Steppin’)
NK (Notorious Kings)
NM (No Mercy, Nasty Minds)
NR (No Remorse)
NSH (National Street Habit, Non Stop Harassment)
NST19 (Nestor 19th Street)
NVS (Notorious Vandal System)
OAC (On Acid Crew, Once Again Crew)
OBK (Original Blood Krew)
OBS 47,50 (Oriental Boys Soldiers 47,50 St)
OKB (Oriental Killer Boys)
OL (Out Laws, Only Lunatics, Otros Locos)
OPLS (Oak Park Locos)
OSA (One Step Ahead)
OSK (Old School Kings)
OTK (Out To Kill)
OTNC (Old Town National City)
OTSDX3 (Old Town San DiegoX3)
OX3 (Otay X3)
PALS (Palm Avenue Locos)
PHX3 (Paradise HillsX3)
PLC (Pre-Lady Clik)
PPLS (Pocos Pero Locos)
PPX3 (Presidio ParkX3)
PSL, PZL, vPL (Varrio Posole)
PVC (Puro Varrio Campo)
PWP (Pecker Wood Posse)
RBLS (Riverbottom Locos)
RC-LS (Ruff City) or SSR (South Side Roughnecks)
RCA (Real Crime Artists)
RDK (Real Daygo Kings, Riskin Detainment, Reckin Daygo Kounty)
REK (Real Evil Klowns)
RIA (Risking It All)
RK (Rat Killas)
RLB (Restless Bombers)
RLS (Rasta Locos)
RM (Ruthless Mexicans)
RP (Ruthless Posse)
RPK (Ruthless Posse Krew)
RTS ( Runnin' The Show, Rocking The Suckers, Racking The Spraycans)
RTS (Ruff Tuff Somalis)
SAD (Seek And Destroy, Stoned And Drunk, Strapped And Dangerous)
SBA (Seduced By Aerosol)
SBLS (South Bay Locos)
SBX3 (South BayX3)
SDK (Still Dropping Klowns)
SDV/SDVK, SDVC (San Diego Vandal Crew)
SEK (South East Kings, Smokin Every Krew)
SEX3 (South EastX3)
SExSD (South East San Diego)
SKAX3 (Still Kicking AssX3)
SM (Varrio San Marcos)
SM 20 (Sherman 20th street)
SM 27(Sherman 27th street)
SM 38 (Sherman 30th street)
SOL (Somali Out Laws)
SPC (Syko Pathic Criminals)
SSC (South Side Criminals)
SSI (State Side Islanders)
SSK (Sick of Society Kings)
SSV (South Side Vista)
SS∙SD (South Side∙San Diego)
STR, ST38 (Shell Town 38th street)
STS (Satanas)
SVL (Spring Valley Locos)
SY (San Ysidro) aka SIDRO
TAC (The Alcoholic Club)
TAGS (Toys Always Get Slashed)
TB (The Block)
TCS (Twenty Center Street) or CSG (Center Street Gang)
TEW/2K (The Evil Within Krew, True Evil Warriors Krew)
TH (Thunder Hills)
TKO (The Krazy Ones, Trust Know One)
TMK (The Mexican Klan, Too Much Kaos, Trouble Makin Kids, Too Much Klownin)
TNS (Takin' No Shit, Trust No Soul)
TOC (Tiny Oriental Crips)
TRC (Top Ranking City, That Roots Child)
TRG (Tiny Rascal Gang )
TTBB (Time To Break Boundaries)
TV/ TVC (True Vandal Crew, The Vicious Cycle)
UBS (Unique Boys)
UC (Under Cover, Un Controllable)
UF/UFK (Un Fadeable Krew, Us Fools Krew)
UNO (Under No One, Unlike No Other)
UWK (Under World Kings)
V.LVX3 (Varrio Linda Vista)
VCG (Valley Centro Gang)
VCT (Varrio Campo Trece)
VCVX3 (Varrio Chula Vista)
VCX3 (Varrio Chollas X3)
VCX3, vCLMT X3 (Varrio Clairemont X3)
VDK (Van Dyke Krew)
VEL (Varrio Encanto Locos)
VH (Vista Homies) or VHB (Vista Homeboys)
VIA (Varrio Iris Avenue)
VLGX3 (Varrio Lemon Grove X3)
VLO (Varrio Locos Otay)
VM, VML (Varrio Mesa Locos)
VMS (Varrio Market Street)
VP (Varrio Posole, LS)
VPL (Varrio Peñasquitos Locos)
VST (Varrio Sureño Town) or VSL (Varrio Sureño Locos)
WBG (Winona Blood Gang)
WE (Wicked Enemies)
WH (Weed Heads)
WK (Wicked Klowns)
WOS (Wicked Oceanside Sureños)
WPI (We Puff Indo, We Plead Insanity)
WSC (West Side Crips)
WSG (West Side Gang)
WSK (West Side Kings)
WSLSX3 (West Side Locos X3)
WSxFK (West Side Fuck Klowns)
WS∙NC (West Side National City)
WT∙APK X3 (Wop Town Amici Park X3)
WT∙KBS X3 (Wop Town Krazy Boys X3)
YPN (Your Property Next)
Z (Zoroe, Zany, Zoo)
^^^ I see someone has been looking at my flickr page...LOL
that was me, but i am hoping to expand, please help
Wow. Quite a bit of mistakes on that list. Let me break out the Dos Equis and roll a tight one get started on this one mocosos.
For one, 73 Locos is a recent (well been around for a couple years now) click that is located in Mountain View area and is making a HUGE dent on Shelltowns turf. They are NOT 73rd Street locos. That is 100% incorrect.
It stands for the 73 on the telephone buttons, which is SE, 7 & 3, SouthEast. They are completely independent of South East 13 Lokos, SEK, and South East Tokeros, and the 100 or so other South East clicks. Most stepping stones, but this 73 Lokos click is putting in work. They dumped on one of my pequeno homies who lost his life a few months back. On to the next one.
There is no Chamoune Avenue Crips. Plain and Simple. Plus, if you are going to add negro gangs to the Raza post, you are talking a whole nother ball game there homie. It is best to stay on our side of the fence. I know a couple of negros from a few of those sets, but homie they are old. Not these young cats.
Ok, moving on. Let me interject as well, a good amount of these clicks are DEAD. For example, there is no more AEK Crew, becuase it is ES Avenida Euclid 13 locos. There is no more APS, etc.
In addition, you have separate clicks of an entire hood under no particular umbrella. For example, you have Barrio Linda Vista 13, but no mention of the Rascals or Pee Wee Clickas. Likewise, National City has the OTNC factions of Antiguas, Insane, Olden, and Acre Boys. All under the NC flag.
Are you serious about Winona Blood gang? Never heard of that in my life, and I used to live on Winona in East Side.
Varrio Sureno Town is an out of state gang that has NO ROOTS in SD.
Alot of cleaning up on this list to do. I am high now. Time to go get some grtub. I'llcheck in later. PEACE.
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“Back on subject, I am a littel familiar with the Chula Vista vs. West Side Locos beef, but not too much. I do know they hate each other. Does anyone from the Southbay know about this conflict? And how did it start?”
All i know is this…I left CV for a few years to live in LA, and I came back around 2001, and there was a new gang called West Side Locos (WSLS).
This is all rumors, and I hope a homie from the South Bay can clear this up=
I guess they were started by some eses that were in VCV-or got along with them. Something happened between them, and the vatos started their own click, which grew pretty big for the area. Some one told me they were originally called the West Chula Vista Locos, but they dropped CV out and replaced it with side since they did not want to be associated with VCV (remember this is all rumors…so again…I hope someone can clear this up). The WSLS ended up taking a part of VCV’s hood.
They began banging hard on each other, and started shooting at each other big time. Then CVPD began crack down on both hoods since WSLS killed a couple of civilians at Eucalyptus Park, and both gangs were continuously shooting up neighborhoods off of Broadway (I long for the day when most feuds were settled with fists in CV). West Side Locos and VCV are the only hoods that sit right next to each other in CV (with E Street and Broadway being a rough boundry).
Now-WSLS is still around, but a lot smaller. Everyone in the South Bay knows that CVPD doesn’t play around with gangs-especially since city hall is trying to change the image of west Chula Vista. Rightly so…since west Chula Vista has cleaned up a lot! CVPD is known to continuously harass gangsters…even if they are minding their own business. CVPD was also doing parole raids one after another for while…which kept sending gangsters back in the can.
Now all gangs in CV are a lot smaller, due to policing and redevelopment of the west side. I know that there were a lot of vatos from VCV that moved away because of the redevelopment which increased rental and housing rates. Some of them moved to Spring Valley, El Cajon, Lemon Grove, City Heights, Linda Vista…
Gangs in CV:
Otay=Varrio Loco Otay
Otay 13-O13, VLO (south of Palomar, west of 805, north of the Otay River, east of Broadway)
Otay River Bottom Locos-RBLS (west of 805, south of Main St, north of the Otay river east of Broadway)
Otay Rasta Locos-RLS(west of Hilltop, north of Main St, south of Orange, east of Broadway)
Otay Trece Boys-13BS (same as RLS hood, and south of Rienstra, north of Orange, west of Hilltop, east of 2nd)
Oldest gang in CV (from around the early 50’s). Also-Used to be the largest gang in CV (100+ heads during the early 90’s). Beef with VCV, Sidro, Del Sol.
Brandy Wine Locos (east of 805, south of Sequioa, north of Main st, along Brandy Wine Avenue)
Somewhat new-started around the late 80’s by a cholo from Long Beach-and Otay rejects. Smallest gang in CV (Almost not even on the map!)-less than 10 heads. Beef with Otay.
VCV (south of E Street, west of 5th, north of L Street, east of I-5)
VCV Grande Locos-GLS
VCV G Street-GST (east of 5th, west of 2nd, along G street and nearby streets)
VCV Nutty Boys-NBS
VCV South Bay Locos-SBLS
VCV Ruthless Mexicans-RM
Second oldest hood in CV (started in the 60’s). Their old hood used to be north of Palomar, south of C Street, west of Broadway, and east of I-5. They were a somewhat big gang in the late 80’s to late 90’s (maybe no more than 75 heads at the most then), but have shrunk in size now. Beef with Otay, WSLS, Del Sol, OTNC.
West Side Locos-WSLS (north of E Street, south of C Street, west of 4th, east of I-5
Newest gang in CV-started around the late 90’s. Maybe 50 heads at its peak (large estimation). Supposedly they kick it with OTNC. Beef with VCV.
South East Lokos-SELS (hood was north of Naples, south of L Street, streets along Hilltop)
Split off from SELS in Southeast SD. Small (less than 10 heads)-active in the 90’s, but is now dead. Beefed with VCV, Encanto, Shelltown, CP Mob.
Castle Park Mob-CPM (north of orange, south of Palomar, east of 2nd, west of Hilltop)
Was a mixed race party crew that started banging…dead now. Had Mexicans, blacks, whites, and Samoans. Most of them went to Castle Park High, or lived in the Castle Park neighborhood. Beefed with Southeast Lokos.
K Street Mob Bloods-KMob (east of I-5, south of J Street, north of Sierra, west of Broadway along K street, also by K Street and 3rd)
Small black gang (probably only 5 heads deep) around in the late 80’s/early 90’s. Supposedly VCV made them shut down (peacefully) since they were in VCV’s hood (remember again…rumors). Supposedly they were Skyline Piru confederates.
There have been other gangs that tried to set up shop in CV:
Mexican
Young Crowd-YC (from LA) in the late 80’s in the Hilltop/Naples area
North Hollywood Locos (from LA)-NHLS
South Side Mob-SSM(from National City)
South Side Diablos-SSDBS (from South San Diego)
Black
Neighborhood Crips (from SESD)
5/9 Brims (from SESD)
Skyline Piru (from SESD)
Asian
FCW (from SSD)
Insane Diego Mob (from SSD)
Thank you for the good clecha on Chula Vista. I was wondering about WSLS and Brandywine. Good looking out.
COMING FROM LOS ANGELES AND NOW LICING HERE IN SAN DIEGO, I HAVE SEEN MORE HOOD MIXING AND PEOPLE NOT TRIPPING AS MUCH ON COLOR OR RACE LIKE BACK HOME. I SEE MORE WHITEBOYS REPPING VARRIOS AND SEE MORE MEXICANS REPPING BLOOD OR CRIP SETS. HAVENT SEEN ANY BLACK HOMIES BANGING SURENO OR TRECE BUT WITH ALL THE MIXING GOING ON HERE, I WOULDNT BE SUPRISED...NOW I KNOW THAT SHIT CHANGES WHEN YOU GET LOCKED UP, BECAUSE I BEEN TO COUNTY OUT HERE...BUT EVEN THERE, I STAYED KICKING IT WITH A BLACK HOMIE WHO WAS COOL AS FUCK, BUT IN LA I WOULD HAVE GOT MY NUTS CHOPPED OFF...MAYBE THE UNIT I WAS IN WAS DIFFERENT...I KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF BORDER BROTHERS WITH ME, AND I DID NOT RUN INTO TOO MANY FOOLS FROM LOGAN OR SHERMAN LIKE I THOUGHT I WOULD..THEY HAD THEM HOMIES IN A DIFFERENT UNIT...SAN DIEGO IS FIRME AND RACIAL TENSION ONLY MEANS MORE STRESS AND BULLSHIT FROM THE POLICE...CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY IT'S DIFFERENT?
aww homeboy with the fat list up there ^^^^^^^^^
you put down MDR but how do you name MDR without the twin brother LD ?? fuckin LOVE DESTROYERS up in this muhfuh.....
In re: SD being different than Los.
Well Anonymous from Los, WE are all under the Sureno flag, but San Diego runs it's own car, simliar to to Ventura County, the Inland Empire, Orange County, and LA.
There aren't as many gangs, and our population reflects that as well. A city of 3 million compared to LA's 11 million and you can see the stark contrast. a hundred and fifty to 200 clickas/Varrios in San Diego is thin by comparison when matched up against the 5,000 plus hispanic varrios/clicks in LA.
Plus, look at the dope money as well. We don't have sown up hoods with 24/7 drive thru drug commerce like Los Angeles does, so there isn't a ot of competition. Sure you can go score Sherm and crack in Logan, and some shit in El Cajon from the Locos, but in LA there are whole neighborhoods where it is a supermarket, any drug anytime, 24/7. When a raid goes down, it doesn't matter, the next DAY fools set up shop. In SD, a raid goes down, there is a huge cooling off period, lasting from days to months before it is cracking again. No cometition. There isn't really drug related Varrio beefs as well.
Plus, historically, Varrios have main rivals with their wars going back 20 years or so, and they keep it that way. Also, many Varrios have relatives in other hoods and concessions are made. There are dudes from Chula Vista in East Side, East Side boys in Logan, Logan boys in East Side, Southeast gangs in Chula Vista, and so on and so on. Pedo goes on, beleive me it does, but not at the LA rate.
Also, I was locked up when the LA Riots were happening on an old DUI warrant. We were tense, but there weren't any orders for shit to jump off like LA. We had a truce. Don't ask me how or from who, becuase I didn't and I was glad we were ok.
Yes, there are alot of racial crossovers, but that is cut out in the pinta. Just like it is, street bullshit, but line it up and tow the line when you hit state.
As for everything else in general, that is what makes us who we are, unique and proud of our city, we are our own. We do things our way and don't like to be compared to LA. We are cool with the negro gangs too, no beef, no funk. It is what it is.
I hope that helps.
To the guy who posted El Cajon Dukes is back, what is that supposed to mean? Did you guys all go on a vacation together? Did you guys die out and then decide to open up shop again? Clarify please. It seems as if you are promoting a broadway show...EL CAJON DUKES IS BACK! Boy, from the looks of it, your "hood" is being taken overt by a big handful of other clicks. Good luck with that one!
WHAT ABOUT SUM 411 ON DA MARKET STREET GANG
BAP R FUCKIN REJECTS FROM SE*LKS
BAP IS KOOL WIT BAS...BUT BEEF IT WIT NVS...BUT BAS N NVS HAVE CLOSE TIES
NVS*BAS*SPC*NSH STARTED RK WHICH IS KNOWN FOR RAT KILLA BAS NVS TNS ARE TAGGIN BAGGING CREWS OR CLICKS KUZ THY PUT IN WORK
NVS is National Vandal System
BAS dont know as well as SPC and i know NSH is National Street Habit, help me out here is I am wrong!!!
El Cajon Dukes is back huh? Really?
Man I tell you, the rat gang should be your nickname. Almost everyone of your homeboys rat on each other and that is a proven FACT, not heresay.
Remember Big Droopy? The one who started Dukes? He ratted on your homeboy and he got 2 years in the plea deal and his homeboy got LIFE. FACT.
Little Droopy and other Dukes were at Mission Beach 4 years ago and they saw Big Droopy. He got the DUKES on his neck covered up. He has a green light and Litttle Droopy rushed him, spit on him, threw a trash can at him and disrespected him. Big Droopy didn't and COULDN'T do shit. He was a no good. A greenlight.
Next, Look at what happened to Lil' Boxer. He did all those killings in El Cajon on the Orphens and that Mayate and who ratted him out and turned state? DRACKS.
That bitch ass fat fool wore a WIRE to provide evidence and ratted everyone out. Lil Boxer and his homie got LIFE. Dracks testified and got into the Witness Protection program and is living in Colorado. How do I know? It is public records throught the court docket number one, number two it is in the signonsandiego.com archives, and three, I know Lil' Boxers hina.
As he calls it, a bunch of ratas in your ganga. FACT.
And that isn't the only incident. More to come.
BLANKO GANGSTER TRUSTY JOKER BANDIT SHARKY GADGIT RASKOL FLAKO SILENT BADGER WINO SLEEPSTER
SOUTHEAST TOKERS 13
"City Heights is Considered Eastside San Diego, but no gangsters from ESD will say they're from city heights...
and im pretty sure thats becuz when jrs., vandyke click, AN, ICK, n all that shit started claimin city heights, the original city heights gang (ESD) just stuck 2 sayin they were from eastside n not city heights cuz those r all enemies..."
^^^^^^^Good Lookin’ Out^^^^^^^^^
ESD is an old hood. Older than ANLS, CHTS JRS, ICK, and VDKLS. ESD's roots go waaaaaay back, probably to the 50's, and maybe even to the 40's.
Back in the day, the "City of East San Diego" was incorporated out of the City Heights neighbourhood in San Diego (so, East San Diego was actually its own city at one point-like South San Francisco), This was in 1912! The city was re-annexed by San Diego in the 1920's, but by that time East San Diego had its own cultural and geographical personality, and the name had stuck (if you look on older maps of SD you can see an area called East San Diego south of Normal Heights). So, the City Heights neighbourhood became the City of East San Diego, and then the City of ESD became part of the City of San Diego again…as the City Heights Neighbourhood. Confusing! But essentially ESD=City Heights.
By the 1930's and 1940's, the pachuco lifestyle became popular with Chicanos. This was birth of the ESD as a barrio, not a gang. Then through the 50's ESD became more of a modern day gang, which was centered around the University and 40th street area...were the city of East San Diego was.
Around the late 1960's SD city council began to construct a "Mid-City" plan for the redevelopment of the middle section of San Diego. This included the neighbourhoods east of Hillcrest, north of H94, and west of the collage area. Most of this plan focused on the City Heights neighbourhood, hence the Mid-City nickname for City Heights, and the surrounding neighbourhoods (also the name for the police division that patrols the area).
It was around the 1970’s and 1980’s that “City Heights” name was regularly used for this area again. In the late 1980’s and early 1990’s I remember a gang popping up, and calling itself City Heights 13 (CH13, CHTS13). I think they died off in the late 1990’s (or maybe evolved into the City Heights Juniors, or merged with JRS13 to make CH JRS).
I remember that CH JRS used to just go under Juniors 13 (JRS13) before they claimed CH. But maybe I just knew some wannabes that didn’t know how to properly tag up their hood. Anyway, JRS chose to claim CH, since that was what their neighbourhood’s name now was……..City Heights, not East San Diego.
With Aztec Nation… I guess they did choose an alternate form of a neighbourhood name since they don’t get along with JRS, and since JRS claimed CH. So they have gone under the name “Mid City Aztec Nation Locos.” I don’t know much about ANLS, ICK13, VDKLS, NPLS…they weren’t around in my day.
My day was in the mid 1980’s to mid 1990’s. And back then, East Side meant you were from East San Diego/City Heights/Mid City/College Area neighbourhoods (essentially from North Park to La Mesa). All the gangsters, taggers, and civilians from those areas would claim ES. Sort of like how LH, ST, VELS, PHLS, all claim SE. Oak Park was also considered ES in my day, but I noticed that OPLS claims SE.
So ESD claims ESD because that was the name of the neighbourhood when the gang formed, probably not because their enemies claim City Heights, or Mid City.
Check out the wiki on CH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Heights,_San_Diego,_California
It almost reminds me of Chula Vista. All of the newer gangs there don’t claim CV. They claim South Bay or South Side...like WSLS, FBLS, and BWLS. I guess it was because they didn’t get along with VCV off the bat. And Otay is a whole different story!
Peace to all SD hoods! From Oside to the border!
HEM is dead...
whats old town and linda vista
these is a list i have gathered together over the years
1302 LS (B. Mission Bay Locos)
5/9 Brims
73 LS (73 Locos, SE on phone pad)
ABH (Always Blazin Herbs)
ABK (Alcoholics Brown Krew)
ABS (Acre Boys)
AD (Aerosol Destruction)
AEK (Avenue Euclid Klika, Always Enforcing Kaos, Another Evil Kreation, Above Every Krew)
AIB (Asian Insane Boys)
AIC(Artists In Crime, Always In Control)
AK (Aerosol Kids, Acid Kids)
AN LS (Aztec Nation Locos)
APS (Aerosol Psychos)
ATLK (Actively Taggin Lunatics Krew)
ATR (Asian Thug Riders)
ATS (Antigos)
AVL (Alpine Varrio Locos)
B.LVX3 (Barrio Linda Vista)
BAP (Brown and Proud)
BBH (Bros Before Hoes)
BBS (Block Boys)
BC (Beyond Crazy)
BCX (Burn Crush Execute)
BDB (Be Down Boys)
BDR (Beating Down Rivals, Bring Da Rucis)
BLM (Bird Land Mob)
BNB (Bahala Na Barkada)
BNG (Bahala Na Gang)
BR (Bay Riders)
BSD (Bomin San Diego, Being So Destructive)
BSM (Barrio Sherman)
BTC (Bombin’ The City)
BWL, BWLS (BrandyWine Locos)
CAC (Chamone Ave. Crips)
CALS (Crazy Ass Locos)
CBR, CBLS, CLS (Carlsbad Locos)
CCC (Crew Called Creature)
CHB (Can’t Hold Back)
CN (Cloud Nine)
CO (Crazy Ones)
CP (Causing Panic)
CPB (Chicano Park Boys)
CYS(Crazy Young Syndrome, Caught You Slipping)
DC (Don’t Care)
DFA (Down For Anything, Don’t Fuck Around)
DFC (Down For Crime)
DFM (Down For Mine)
DMK (Daygo Mob Kings)
DMLX3 (Dairy Mart Locos)
DNA (Daily New Artists, Diego Needs Aerosol)
DOA (Demons Of Art)
DSL (Division Street Locos)
DSX3 (Del Sol X3)
DTK (Down To Kill)
DVS (Devious)
DYH (Dissn Yo Hood)
EBT (Esco Boys Town)
ECHL (El Cajon Hood Lums)
EDM (East Daygo Mob)
EF (Encinitas Flats)
EG (Eden Gardens)
EGP (Easy Going Pinoys)
ELE∙VE∙X3 TLS (LV in spanish)
ENCX3 (Encanto Heights)
ENCX3 (Encinitas)
ESDAX3 (East San Diego AztecsX3)
ESDX3 (East Side DiegoX3)
ESP (East Side Piru aka Skyline Piru)
ES∙NCLS (East Side National City Locos)
EV (Everlasting Vandals, Extremely Vicious)
EVD (Esco Viejo Diablos)
FBI (Forever Being Insane, Fuck Being Indicted)
FBK (Forever Boming Krew, Familia Bien Kabrona)
FBLS, vFLS (Varrio Fallbrook Locos)
FH (Familia Hispana) or PCFH (Palm City From Hell)
FK (Forever Kings, Freeway Killers)
FMK (Fumando Mota Krew, Forever Murder Klowns)
FO (Fuck Off, Faded Off Chronic)
FSB/FSBK (Freestyle Bombers Krew)
FSI (Feeling So Irie)
FTS (Fuck The System)
FWR (Fuck What’s Right)
GBS (Gamma Boys)
GDP X3 (Get Down Posse)
GI (Gone Insane, Get Irie, Graffiti's Illest)
GLS (Grande Locos)
GMK (Gas Mask Killas)
Gst (G Street)
HB (Hell Bound)
HBG (Holy Blood Gang)
HEM (Hecho En Mexico)
HK (Hispanic Klan)
HML (Hemlock)
IBS (Insane Boys)
ICKX3 (Insane Criminal Klicka)
IDM (Insane Diego Mob)
IK (Insane Kings, Irie Kings)
IMPX3 (Imperial)
IPT (Insane Pinoy Tribe)
ISR (Its So Real)
JMB (Juice ‘em Boys)
JRSX3 (Juniors X3)
JVC (Junior Vandal Crew)
KBP (Kick Back Posse, Krazy Bombing Posse)
KDK (Kuduku)
KI (Killer Instinct)
KLB (Kalaban)
KOE (Knock Out Everytime)
KOS (Kings Of Style, Knockin Out Suckers)
KP (Krazy Payasos)
KTC (Killin The City, Killin The Competition)
KTK (Kill The Kops, Kausing Total Kaos, Kiss These Knuts)
KVR( Kreating Vandalized Ruins)
LCG (Lil Crip Gang)
LD (Love Destroyers)
LGS (Little Gangsters)
LH 30/33 (Logan Heights 30th, 33rd street)
LHC (Logan Heights Click)
LHRS X3 (Logan Heights Red Steps)
LHX3 (Logan HeightsX3 )
LM26 (LOMAS 26th street) or GHX3 (Golden Hill)
LP (Lincoln Park)
LPR (Las Palmas)
LSC/LSCK (L Street Click)
LVC (Linda Vista Crip)
LW (Lyrical Writers, Lets Work)
LWI (Living With Insanity )
MBK (Martin Block Krew)
MBX3 (Mission Bay X3)
MC (Mission Click)
MC aka MAD Crew (Masters at Destruction)
MDR (My Daily Routine, Making Dreams Reality, More Damage Regardless)
MFB (Midnight Freight Bombers, Mexicans Fucking Bitches, My Fat Balls)
NBLS (Nutty Block Locos)
NC MOBX3 (National City Mob)
NFR (No Fucking Respect)
NFR(No Fucking Remorse)
NHS (No Half Steppin’)
NK(Notorious Kings)
NM (No Mercy, Nasty Minds)
NR (No Remorse)
NSH (National Street Habit, Non Stop Harassment)
NST19 (Nestor 19th Street)
NVS (Notorious Vandal System)
OAC (On Acid Crew, Once Again Crew)
OBK (Original Blood Krew)
OBS 47,50 (Oriental Boys Soldiers 47,50 St)
OKB (Oriental Killer Boys)
OL (Out Laws, Only Lunatics, Otros Locos)
OPLS (Oak Park Locos)
OSA (One Step Ahead)
OSK (Old Skool Kings)
OTK (Out To Kill)
OTNC (Old Town National City)
OTSDX3 (Old Town San Diego)
OX3 (Otay X3)
PALS (Palm Avenue Locos)
PHX3 (Paradise Hills)
PLC (Pre-Lady Clik)
PPLS (Pocos Pero Locos)
PPX3 (Presidio Park)
PSL, PZL, vPL (Varrio Posole)
PVC (Puro Varrio Campo)
PWP (Pecker Wood Posse)
RBLS (Riverbottom Locos)
RC-LS (Ruff City) or SSR (South Side Roughnecks)
RCA(Real Crime Artists)
RDK (Real Daygo Kings, Riskin Detainment, Reckin Daygo Kounty)
REK (Real Evil Klowns)
RIA (Risking It All)
RK (Rat Killas)
RLB (Restless Bombers)
RLS (Rasta Locos)
RM (Ruthless Mexicans)
RP (Ruthless Posse)
RPK (Ruthless Posse Krew)
RTS ( Runnin' The Show, Rocking The Suckers, Racking The Spraycans)
RTS (Ruff Tuff Somalians)
SAD (Seek And Destroy, Stoned And Drunk, Strapped And Dangerous)
SBA (Seduced By Aerosol)
SBC (Society’s Brutal Competition, Still Being Crowned)
SBLS (South Bay Locos)
SBX3 (South BayX3)
SDK (Still Dropping Klowns)
SDV/SDVK, SDVC (San Diego Vandal Crew)
SEK(South East Kings, Smokin Every Krew)
SEX3 (South East)
SExSD (South East San Diego)
SKAX3 (Still Kicking Ass)
SM (Varrio San Marcos)
SM 20 (Sherman 20th street)
SM 27(Sherman 27th street)
SM 38 (Sherman 30th street)
SOL (Somali Out Laws)
SPC(Syko Pathic Criminals)
SSC (South Side Criminals)
SSI (State Side Islanders)
SSK(Sick of Society Kings)
SSV (South Side Vista)
SS∙SD (South Side∙San Diego)
STR, ST38 (Shell Town 38th street)
STS (Satanas)
SVL (Spring Valley Locos)
SY (San Ysidro) aka SIDRO
TAC (The Alcoholic Club)
TAGS (Toys Always Get Slashed)
TB (The Block)
TCS (Twenty Center Street) or CSG (Center Street Gang)
TEW/2K (The Evil Within Krew, True Evil Warriors Krew)
TH (Thunder Hills)
TKO (The Krazy Ones, Trust Know One)
TMK (The Mexican Klan, Too Much Kaos, Trouble Makin Kids, Too Much Klownin)
TNS (Takin' No Shit, Trust No Soul)
TOC (Tiny Oriental Crips)
TRC (Top Rankin City, That Roots Child, Top Rankin Culture)
TRG (Tiny Rascal Gang )
TTBB (Time To Break Boundaries)
TV/ TVC (True Vandal Crew, The Vicious Cycle)
UBS (Unique Boys)
UC (Under Cover, Un Controllable)
UF/UFK (Un Fadeable Krew, Us Fools Krew)
UNO (Under No One, Unlike No Other)
UWK (Under World Kings)
V.LVX3 (Varrio Linda Vista)
VCG (Valley Centro Gang)
VCT (Varrio Campo Trece)
VCVX3 (Varrio Chula Vista)
VCX3 (Varrio Chollas X3)
VCX3, vCLMT X3 (Varrio Clairemont X3)
VDK (Van Dyke Krew)
VEL (Varrio Encanto Locos)
VH (Vista Homies) or VHB (Vista Homeboys)
VIA (Varrio Iris Avenue)
VLGX3 (Varrio Lemon Grove X3)
VLO (Varrio Locos Otay)
VM, VML (Varrio Mesa Locos)
VMS (Varrio Market Street)
VP (Varrio Posole, LS)
VPL (Varrio Peñasquitos Locos)
WBG (Winona Blood Gang)
WE (Wicked Enemies)
WH(Weed Heads)
WK (Wicked Klowns)
WOS (Wicked Oceanside Sureños)
WPI(We Puff Indo, We Plead Insanity)
WSC (West Side Crips)
WSG (West Side Gang)
WSK (West Side Kings)
WSLSX3 (West Side Locos X3)
WSxFK (West Side Fuck Klowns)
WS∙NC (West Side National City)
WT∙APK X3 (Wop Town Amici Park X3)
WT∙KBS X3 (Wop Town Krazy Boys X3)
YKO (Young Knock Outs)
YPN (Your Property Next)
Z (Zoroe, Zany, Zoo)
As for these, i dont know what they stand for
ACS
ADM
AITM
ARS
BAS
BKS
BSEK
BSK
BTM
CMH
COS
DAT
DBL
DEK
DRC
DSC
FAC
FAS
JARS
LC
LD
LKS
MGK
MJK
MOD
MTK
NBA
NCS
NIA
NSB
OCPK
OEK
SCF
SFA
SFD
THC
TMC
TPG
TSAK
TUB
VTSK
WMC
WMK
WSKC
About:
"In response to the comment above about that vato with a "TRG 13" tattoo. I hope he is aware that if he ever hits the county or the pen, him claiming TRG will not go well with the SUR."
....and....
"In response to the comment above about that vato with a "TRG 13" tattoo. I hope he is aware that if he ever hits the county or the pen, him claiming TRG will not go well with the SUR."
no diss intended...
1. TRG13 could be a gang from anywhere. Just because u saw it on a homie on the bus in SD, doesn't mean the homie is from SD.
2.There are many gangs that have similar abbreviations. For example: OBS from OTNC and OBS (Oriental Boy Soldiers) from ESSD, EBS-Enano Boys from OTNC and Evil Boys from ESD, CV "compton Varrio," or "Chula Vista," VC13-Varrio Clairemont or Varrio Chollas, LV70 and LV13 Lomita Varrio and Linda Vista, ENC for both Encanto (old school) and Encinitas, LM for Lomas and Luni Mob, SSC-for South Side Crips and South Side Criminals, SV for Sea Vale Street and Spring Valley Locos.
3.If he was from Dago, he might have been from Varrio Clairemont Tiny Rascal Gang. A Sureno gang that has no ties with the Asian Tiny Rascal Gang.
About:
"and what about about TRG? i heard its mostly cabodian or lao but they also got some mexicans and black foos?? ive seen a vato on the bus with a tattoo that said TRG13."
....and....
"In response to the comment above about that vato with a "TRG 13" tattoo. I hope he is aware that if he ever hits the county or the pen, him claiming TRG will not go well with the SUR."
no diss intended...
1. TRG13 could be a gang from anywhere. Just because u saw it on a homie on the bus in SD, doesn't mean the homie is from SD.
2.There are many gangs that have similar abbreviations. For example: OBS from OTNC and OBS (Oriental Boy Soldiers) from ESSD, EBS-Enano Boys from OTNC and Evil Boys from ESD, CV "compton Varrio," or "Chula Vista," VC13-Varrio Clairemont or Varrio Chollas, LV70 and LV13 Lomita Varrio and Linda Vista, ENC for both Encanto (old school) and Encinitas, LM for Lomas and Luni Mob, SSC-for South Side Crips and South Side Criminals, SV for Sea Vale Street and Spring Valley Locos.
3.If he was from Dago, he might have been from Varrio Clairemont Tiny Rascal Gang. A Sureno gang that has no ties with the Asian Tiny Rascal Gang.
Funny, most of that list that "you" gathered together over the years was taken directly from my list of early/mid 90s graffiti crews in SD...
(http://flickr.com/people/sandiegograffiti/)
All those random gangs that you chose to add to the mix (not to mention all those newschool toy crews that arent worth talking about) should probably be saved for a separate list.
Anyways, people are probably going to assume that i am the one spamming that list in here, so I just wanted to make it clear that I am NOT. No offense.
Peace to all crews--its been well over 10 years and i still cant believe the SD graff scene is dead. I still scan the freeways for spots when i drive, as if im really gonna see anything thats worth looking at. Goddamn fucking cholos with their green lights...you killed it LOL
funny cuz i actually know somebody thats black/mexican who banged a Sur gang[not gonna get specific], went to prison, came out banging TRG- the mostly asian gang.
anyways to change the subject, i rolled around mission bay for like 30 minutes looking for the hood &i cant really say i identified it. there were a couple hitups here&there near the highschool but no hood in sight. from what i see on the comments i would suspect that vMB would be super deep.
clarifications please??
i just cant seem to identify a solid hood. this is pretty much the case with all the WS gangs. vCLMT is pretty spread out. vLV is somewhat identifiable. WopTown is confusing. i know where its supposed to be. but i dont see any hitups or people etc. my guess is that all thats left of the hood is the small stretch of apartments on Reynard way. by the way Amici Park is a joke. as far as vOTSD, sure theres the little houses behind hortencia liquor but i just dont see anybody holding down the hood. ever. &im there a lot. but a sidenote to that, there is a considerable amount of OTSD graffiti compared to the fact that the hood is like 15 little houses deep.
i just want somebody to let me know if im totally blind to some of these WS hoods. im not trying to hate cuz i know theyr there. they have to be cuz we all they all have well known rivalries.
on another changing of the subject:
i know its a chicano site but wtf is up with all these all-the-sudden bloods between ESSD and La Mesa??? what happened to EDM & WCC?
seems to me like FWI and YBD started trends? theres all sorts of fools at Crawford Hoover and Helix who say "blood" &fly the red but where the fuck are they from? what set is that??? lincoln is too south and so is skyline-which they all claim to have ties to. its just too far away. idk. its just a big wtf to me...
btw the comments are running very scarce here. lets kick things back up?
one last thing: whats happening to ES? why is ESD less visible and why is there 8362828 new little gangs/krews popping up each day all claiming everything and anything different than ES? why is it only ES?
To the last poster. I used to be a regular on here but I guess Lonewolf went on a censorship spree or something. I was able to put fools in check a couple pages back yappin that old town stuff, but I get to ass clowning a few other mocosos and all of a sudden my 500 word post gets the fuckin banhammer.
So, now that we have a lifeline of dialog, hopefully we can get some real clecha instead of the a-typical hood shot out.
So lets begin.
I have agreed in the past that OTSD is a fucking joke. Just another lame bunch of Paisas that work in the restaurants that get together at the park to drink and smoke yesca after work and tag the alleys. There isn't a fucking ghetto there ANYWHERE. Just because your mother who has to work two jobs to support your sorry fucking loser dropout ass has to move into an apartment in a neighborhood full of million dollar homes and tourists shouldn't be an excuse to "hood certify" or make it a Varrio. That is such bullshit. I know the owners of Hortencia Liquor and when I mentioned OTSD he laughed and said "they are good tenants".
And you are correct about those WS hoods. You can definitely go to Logan, Shelltown, Nestor, Vista, etc. and see fools holding it down, but a leisurely stroll through MB or Clairemont usually you'll run into a fool from ANOTHER HOOD more often than not! The thing is, these fools don't postup at a spot, per se, more so than not they'll kick it at someone's pad. And on the Woptown front, I know quite a few vatos from there and they don't kick it anywhere NEAR that hood. It has gone through such gentrification it literally doesn't exist. More to come...
In response to WSSD hoods:
-VClaras (VC, VC13) is somewhat new to me. I heard they have been around for a while (since the 1970's?). I heard they used to rep WS, but the newer generation dropped it, and claim no side (other than the generic SS, as in Sur Cali). I don't know what part of Clairemont they are from. They have a click called OGP (Olive Grove Park).
-LV13's hood is mostly in the LV Road and Comstock area.
-MBLS hood is mainly from I-5 to Rose Creek, and Garnet to Grand Av/Mission Bay Dr. They also have turf in the Grand Av and Cass Street area. I heard that the OG Mission Bay gang in the 60's had roots from East LA. Don't know if that is true.
-WT's hood used to be tore up back in the day (60's to 80's). WT used to have turf in Midtown and Little Itay from the late 70's on. Little Italy has gone through a tremendous amount of gentrification, and it is now a nice area.
I heard WT now has turf in LI, Park West, and the southern part of Mission Hills. They seem to be more of a "hold on" type of gang....a gang that is around strictly due to tradition, rather than a gang that is based on neighborhood protection. They used to have a big beef with Red Steps and 30th Street in the 80's.
-OTSD...don't know much about them, except that WT and them have been beefing at least since the early 80's. I think OTSD has always been pretty small. But they do bang.
A lot of people think WS gangs are a joke...but all of them put work in...and they aren't afraid to back up their hoods. Maybe it's because most of the west side is middle to high income. I knew a youth gang counselor that delt with kids from WT, OTSD, LV, and MB that were hard cases coming out of CYA. To me, a gang is a gang. Doesn't matter were their hood is.
I have heard that there is rich kid gang from Point Loma. "Tunaville Soldiers." I guess they are portuguese.
About ES...When I was young it was Varrio Chollas 13 (VC13)and ESD13 with a couple of clicks that i knew of=Night Owls (ESD NO)and Playboys (ESD PBS). City Heights 13(CH13, CHTS13) was just beginning, but I guess that died off.. Now I heard that there is a newer gang called City Heights Juniors, and ESD has a lot of clicks (AEK, EBS, VGS, DA, RCS). There is supposed to be a gang that claims "Mid City" (MC Aztec Nation), and a gang that claims Oak Park.
About B's and C's...i noticed that to, and in Chula Vista, Spring Valley, Lemon Grove, and El Cajon. Does anyone know of an actual B and C gang from these areas, or are they transplants from SESD? And what is "FWI" and "YBD."
btw..can some homie from Lomas (or someone else) tell me what GLS,SBS, and SKS mean. Are they knew clicks in Lomas? I am only familiar with the Malos and Youngsters. Ive seen SKS, SBS, and GLS hit up with Lomas26 near my apartment in South Park by 30th and Grape.
About this:
"Otay-Oldest gang in CV (from around the early 50’s)."
"VCV-Second oldest hood in CV (started in the 60’s)."
I have had family from Otay since 1920. My grandfather and older uncles told me that Otay has been around as a varrio since the 1930's (and San Ysidro too). They said the varrio was mainly in the west side by the salt flats until the 60's...they construction of I-5 and industrial complexes took out whole neighborhoods down there, and the varrio "moved" eastward in the 60's and 70's to where it is at now.
They also told me that VCV was around since the 50's, and they would beef with Otay and National City back then. And they did originally start in the Harborside neighborhood, just northwest of the Otay neighborhood.
VCV isn't in that hood anymore. They sorta "disappeared" from Harborside when the abandoned Duke Tomato packing plant was torn down, and the surrounding junk yard was developed into a small industrial complex in the late 1980's. I guess alot of heads that lived in Harborside got locked up around that time, and a lot of the original families that lived in that area moved out once it cleaned up. The housing prices went up after the clean up, and a lot of people sold, and moved eastward.
Continuance on my post, but first, Thanks Lonewolf for lifting the hammer on me. Your world, my comment. :)
Ok, so I left off with WS hoods, now lets move on to the Bloods. See, the thing is, every mayate in SD thinks they are a blood. 90% are fake. They just say Blood to fit in becuase their sisters cousin's baby daddy's mothers uncle is a Blood. There are definitely Blood gangs in the east county due to displacement of families due to income and the injunctions on Skyline and Lincoln, but lets not forget an established old blood gang that formed in the late 80's and early 90's called Casa De Oro Bloods in Spring Valley. And yes, they have hit state pen. I remember a couple of nutty's from there like Lil' B-Hog and Scotty-Bo (rip) from the 1992-93 era. Also, Helix has always been a "blood" school, especially with it's proximity to Lemon Grove. Remember, on the backend of Lemon Grove is Skyline Drive, which is the border for the hood, and Helix is a hill away from Lemon Grove. Lets not forget the seldom seen 62 Street Encanto Bloods and the nicely tucked away Emerald Hills Blood gangs. There were and still are genuine Bloods that attend Helix, and I recall dudes such as Salt Rock and Starr that were youngsters (17) and were already certified shot up hood stars. Also, with Helix being a Charter School now, you have individuals bussed in from all over San Diego now. That is why that O'Ferrel Park/Skyline alliance is tight at Helix.
If you were around El Cajon in the late 80's early 90's, you might remember a coalition of riders from various Bloods and a crazy Crip or two that were part of a group called the "No Joke Posse" that ran the ghetto ass torn down apartments on Peach Street in El Cajon. There were dudes from Lincoln, Skyline, Islander's Pride Bloods, and a few confederates that made up this gang that had Peach Street on lock. They were known for a few robberies and like most intense short lived gangs, most hit state for the robberies or went back to their original hoods. remember, alot of gangs form out of individuals that clicked up with others for protection while out of bounds. The No Joke Posse was made up of older cats, about 26 to 30 + years old at the time, so there were no youngsters to keep it moving.
Now on to East Side. It was only a matter of time before numerous clicks started sprouting there wings and taking flight in East Side. If you look at South East, there are literally 50 or so clicks from all the original tagging Crews (SEK, NVS) to new clicks like BAS and Wicked Klowns that rep South East, so it was inevitable that it would happen sooner or later in East Side. After the Original East Side, then came GDP, then AEK, then UIS, then it just erupted. Now, I can see about 15 or so ES clicks. Some are certified line towers for ES (AEK and the Vagos for instance) while others are just that, little clicks that claim the side of EAST, but not the gang itself.
I had a run in with the Tuna Boys in the early 90's myself, and they put up a good scrap back then, but I can't call it nowadays. I remember they were just a bunch of stoners from PL high that liked to rumble, sort of like the Bird Rock Bandits from nowadays.
So what say you? Good to see this bitch is cracking again! Let's get to it!
Encanto 62 Blood...that's crazy... I forgot about them. I think they also went by South Encanto Bloods (E62B,62EB, SEB, etc...).
I remember there were some wanna bes in National City that tried to bang 26th Street Bloods...never knew what happened to that.
Back to varrios...
There have been a couple of people that have told me that Del Sol actually spilt off from Otay in the late 60's/early 70's.
I guess there are all these rumors flying around about that since "Bat Marquez" has been extradited to the US. He was originally from Del Sol before he went up to the big leagues. But he lived, and grew up in Otay's hood. Supposedly he has a Otay tattoo that is right above a Del Sol tatoo. I haven't seen a picture of him, other than his wanted mugshot.
The rumor goes along these lines....Varrio Loco Otay had the Yatos click, and the Del Sol click. The clicks got into some beef with each other, and the Del Sol click broke off from VLO. Those in the Del Sol click that remained loyal to VLO split from the Del Sol click, and formed the Riverbottom click of VLO. This supposedly happened in the early 70's, or the late 60's depending on the source.
The Yatos that I know say that if it did happen, that it must have happened after they left the hood in the early 70's.
I heard from a Delsolero (in the early 90's) that there hood started in the late 70's near Del Sol Blvd, and it was in response to Sidro gangsters that would crash parties in Otay Mesa. He said a couple of brothers and their cousins started the set after the run-ins with Sidro. However, the Delsolero wans't really 100% sure on the history.
Any Delsoleros or Yatos out there to confirm or sink these rumors?
That second story kinda fits in with that book/study on SD Hoods-"Gangbangs an Drivebys." BTW..that books info is weak. There are several mistakes regarding the history/identity of a few hoods.
For one, the book states that SD didn't have any gangs until the 1970's!!! It also states the LV70got their name from the fact that they considered their hoods border to start at 70th street! Don't by this book. Unless you want a 100% outsiders viewpoint on the SD gang scene from the late 70's to the early 90's.
BTW...thanks for posting your blogs Lone Wolf!
^^^you mentioned UIS as an "eastside click"... and i remember it WAS an eastside crew when it first popped up around the end of '95 and was being written by NESIB and the rest of them. But nowadays the only person i see writing it is a clairemont head called DUNKS(who i am told is now the "shot caller"). Why is a guy from clairemont running an ES crew?
Funny though, being a clairemont head, he still hates on the "WS" tags that CRASH puts up...
Its also funny, with all the set-tripping, that neither one of them has abandoned that tagger-style font...
On a related note, AEK has been mentioned several times as a strictly ES crew but i know for a fact that several of their members used to live in clairemont as well. Dunno if those fools had any gang affiliations... but if people living in Clmt have more allegiance to ES than they do their own hood I guess that says something about the amount of influence that Varrio Clairemont holds(not much, LOL)
Mission Bay isnt dead, theres still raza in that barrio. Okay take this if your coming from southeast or eastside take the Interstate 5 north and get of at mission bay drive from there you'll see the section 8 pink apartments all over delrey street thats the deep eastside area of MB.
Or go down grand avenue and once you hit the first bridge your there. Rose Creek Courts and the trail to the 2nd bridge you'll find a mess load of Mission Bay hit ups, or just La Couilla projects on 2300 section of Grand Avenue. You see Mission Bay isnt that big in area. They consist of 2
(the VMBLS hood) main blocks on the eastern side and the creek trail. It is a well known and pretty deep barrio in the westside of sandiego.
What's up with that West Side Locos gang in Chula Vista? Are they still around? All i see are VCV and FBC hit ups in there hood.
VCV and Otay have been rumbling hard the past few weeks!
I have another question about tagbangers, if anyone cares to answer it...
So far people have mentioned AEK, SEK, TMK, SKA, and RTS... now what about NSH? This was a writing crew which was originally from Southeast SD if im not mistaken, but during the mid 90s they had at least a couple members in Linda Vista as well. Around 1997, i remember seeing SACO NSH hit up both LVX3, and NSHX3(as if that crew was a 13 gang in itself?). Now as far as i know, LVX3 doesnt get along with Shelltown or any of the other gangs from SESD where the majority of that crew hails from. So whats up with that? Did NSH really become aligned with Linda Vista, or did they become a gang in their own right? Or maybe none of the above...cause I actually still see new NSH hitups from time to time and its still the same old tagger style.
Yeah..nowadays it seems like every other tagging crew throws up a trece by its initials!
I think the taggers that went "offical" 3ce are: ICK (SSICK13), AEK (ESD AE), EBS (ESD EBS), SKA (32nd Street SKA), BAP (BAP13), MTK (National City Mid Town Klick), VDK (Van Dyke Locos), AN (Mid City Aztec Nation Locos), Clay Block (Logan30 Clay Block Siders),HK (Hispanic Kings 13) KP (SESD13 KPLocos) , and CM (SESD13 CMLS) .
Then, there's others that i don't know if they calim 3ce, or not. Like: ALS, RTS, SDK, WSFK, SSDFK, SSTK, SBI, MV73, SAB, FBC, BDK, BTS, BTC, HEM, Wicked Klowns, NMC, DB, MEK, HLK, and TKO.
I sometimes see their hit ups tagger style, and sometimes gangster style. Some of them beef with gangs (ALS and WK vs. Shell Town and ESD, 73LS vs Shell Town, BTC vs. Varrio Chula Vista, Dead Boys vs. Otay, HEM vs. VCV and West Side Locos, HLK vs. VCV, SDK and SSDFK vs. SESDLS and SELKS). And sometimes I seen some of them tag up a trece next to their initials on one occasion, and just their intials on another occasion.
It's almost like they are on the fence...and not willing to make a full commitment to being a true gangster for some of them.
But on the other hand some are like full blown gangs that have a defined turf MV73LS claims part of the Mountain Veiw area (Ocean View Bld, to Imperial Ave, and from I-15 to 40th street). FBC claims part of the Marlborough Heights area in Chula Vista (C ST to E ST, Broadway to Fourth Ave). Sometimes I see MH FBCLS hit up in Eucalyptus Park, (Marlborough Heights Fifth Block Crazy Locos).
Bs and Cs
to answer the question "what is FWI and YBD?" a couple posts up.
FWI is Fuk Wit It. from what ive heard it started out as a few kids that lived in ES that knew some older kids that lived in SE that knew some people that knew some bloods. most of these kids went to patrick henry highschool and knew a few others that went to hoover. so they all create this little crew they like to call "fuk wit it" and somehow claimed they were from the "east" [skyline's area]. they started off small like 8-10 people and then spread steadily. now they have some real live beef with lincoln and sometimes YBD even tho some of the original FWI heads hung out with the YBD fools at henry high. this crew/clik is pretty much centered in ES esp. around hoover. its caused a shit load of younger kids in the area to be wannabe bloods.
YBD is young but dangerous. theyr also bloods in the ES area. theyr hood centers around 35&adams ave. with a few heads in north park and City hts. ive seen a couple of them chillin at adams park as i passed by a couple times but personally i think theyr a joke. i went henry high school with a few of them, theyr color is white and a few of them rap &shit.
back to us chicanos.
you dont have to give me directions buddy i know where the vMB hood officially is, its just that it doesnt look like a typical hood and shows minimal "hood characteristics" from what ive seen. not doubting its status but dont try to make it seem like its something like an early 90s gangsta movie. definitely didnt feel too threatened when i was there. along with all the other WS hoods.
&there was pretty informative post a while back about the ECDukes. i wanna hear more about it.
and i did hear something about UIS being a ES thing and a WS thing. i like them. i see their tags a whole lot and they keep it simple. i thought Crow was their main guy not Dunks. i could be wrong but seeing Dunks hitups is kinda new.
but im not a big fan of the "tagbanging" crews and the 13 bullshit that goes along with it. it makes all the lines between the different types of taggers a little too fuzzy. i cant even hitup under the bridges by qualcomm without some random fools from RDK tryna bang on somebody. not everyone who hits up some art on walls is from a gang/clika/crew. anybody relate?
fuck..
anyways, im glad to see this shit starting to popoff again i'll def. be back here soon to check.
uis is up in smoke it is a tagging krew that is all i know about them
Good clecha on the B's along Adams and in East Side. This shit is finally coming along with some good dialog!!! :)
whats up with VCV NBLS?? I see that tagged up as Nasty Boys, Naughty Boys, Nutty Boys and Neighborhood Locos. Which is it??
Is Calle 32 Locos still active? I don't see any hitups from thgem in SESD anymore. Probably since last year. Wern't they allies with 32 Street SKA 13?
32 Street is SKA Locos. I saw Thino (Flako) and Adik (Bobby) at Chicano Park day in May earlier this year, and then ran into Thino in Old Town and he was with Mitchy Slick. Thino is throwing down some sick tattoos and he works at a shop in Point Loma. They are all stamped with 32 on their bodies, but like I said a few pages back, the location is dead. They don't kick it there anymore, just like AEK LOCOS don't kick it at the Alley in Euclid. The calles are more for geographical purposes now.
And as for all those tagging crews/clicks that claim the 13ce, remember that is not an automatic blessing from the pinta just becuase we are south-siders. Clicks that have not hit state or put in work for the Sur in the pinta will have a hard reality check if and/or when they do. Remember, you can be a LOCOS or KRAZIES click, but to automatically add 13 to your click means that you are towing the line for the big homies in the pen. Those tagging clicks that were the first to sport the 13 placas (AEK for example, and I constantly refer to them not in favoratism, becuase I am not an Esider, but becuase when I was locked up they were one of the first to be a crew that had the SUR's blessings to tow the line and become a certified 13 gang)had to put in work to earn that number, that is what fools out in the calles don't know. Hit state with that 13 shit and you aint' been blesssed, you will be greenlit or of course, mandatory checking and missions to see if your click can tow the line.
I thought that Alpine Varrio was from LA (West Side). Is there a gang in Alpine??? If so, that's a trip! That area is nice and somewhat rural. I see a lot of people in San Diego mistaking the Winter Gardens gang for a San Diego gang. But they are from LA. I guess its because there is a Winter Gardens area in Lakeside.
DUNKS UISK UP IN THA MUTHAFUCKIN HOUSE
what happens when a tagger or graff artist hits the pen? do they gotta tow the line too?
What are the turf areas in East Side?Where is the actual territory of ESD...Aztec Nation... ICK...Van Dyke Locos...Juniors 13??I always hear of these gangs, and see tags.But i dont even know where thete actual turf is. I just know that they are all in City Heights.The only gang I know that has a set area is Cherokee Point Locos.ESD seems like a big gang. They have a lot of different klikas!How come the other gangs in City heights don't tag up East Side-or ES? They are all in East Side. In LA, all the gangs in Boyle and ELA tag up East Side-even though there is a ELA13 gang.
How come they don't do the same down here?The only gang that tags ES in San Diego is ESD.
Questions about West San Diego...
When I was a youngster, there was only Wop Town, OTSD, Linda Vista 13,and Mission Bay. Now there is a bunch of stuff! I see a lot of tags around WS.
Who is legit, and who are the busters out of these?-
LMK13
WSMK13
WSBR
WSFK
West Side Lil Rascals
WSSD13
Midway Locos
TVS
Birdland Mob (mexican?)
and where are their hoods at?
BTW-is it true that MR Shadow lives in Jamul now? Talk about living as far away from the west side as you can!
Here is a list that I compiled of active SD County gangs. This list was compiled for a report (maybe future study) on the gang culture in San Diego. This list includes contributions from active gang members, ex-gangmembers, and law enforcement. Most of the contributions were made by active gang members, with comments from ex-gang members and law enforcement. There are probably some gangs not listed, feel free to comment-or add. Some of these gangs may have also turned inactive.
Here is a key to the ethnicities: AA=African American, MA=Mexican American, MEA=Middle Eastern American, MU=Multiethnic, P=Pinoy, PI=Pacific Islander, SA=Southeast Asian American, SM=Somali American, W=white
NSD
Mira Mesa 13 (MA)
Varrio Penasquitos Locos (MA)
Afghan Family Gang (MEA)
Samahang Dugong Pinoy (P)
Asian Crips (SA)
Mira Mesa Crips (SA)
WSD
Linda Vista 13 (MA)
Mission Bay Locos (MA)
Old Town San Diego (MA)
Varrio Clairemont (MA)
Wop Town (MA)
Birdland Mob (MU)
Bird Rock Bandits (MU)
Linda Vista Crips (MU)
Tiny Oriental Crips (SA)
Viet Boys (SA)
Viet Side (SA)
Tunaville Soldiers (W)
ESD
East Dago Mob (AA)
fu-- with It (AA)
Young But Dangerous (AA)
Aztec Nation Lokos (MA)
Cherokee Point Locos (MA)
City Heights Insane Criminal Klicka (MA)
City Heights Juniors (MA)
East San Diego 13 (MA)
Logan Heights Clicka (MA)
Normal Heights Locos (MA)
North Park Locos (MA)
Oak Park Locos (MA)
Varrio Chollas 13 (MA)
Van Dyke Locos (MA)
Kapit Bahay Boys (P)
Asian Boys (SA)
Asian Thug Ridaz (SA)
Crazy Oriental Thugs (SA)
Naughty Ruthless Boys (SA)
Oriental Boy Soldiers (SA)
Tiny Eastside Crips (SA)
Tiny Rascal Gang (SA)
Holy Blood Gang (SM)
Ruff Tuff Somalis (SM)
Somali Outlaws (SM)
SESD
69 Piru (AA)
Bloccide Crips (AA)
Emerald Hills Blood Gang (AA)
Gangster Pimp Mafia (AA)
Lil Africa Piru (AA)
Lincoln Park Bloods (AA)
Neighborhood Rollin 40’s Crip (AA)
O’Farrell Park Bangsta Gang (AA)
Skyline Piru (AA)
Southside 5/9 Brims (AA)
Upside Sick (AA)
West Coast Crips (AA)
32nd Street SKA Locos (MA)
Brown and Proud 13 (MA)
Logan 13 (MA)
Logan 30th Street (MA)
Logan 33rd Street (MA)
Logan Red Steps (MA)
Lomas 26th Street (MA)
Lomita Varrio 70 (MA)
Market Street Locos (MA)
Mountain View 73 Locos (MA)
Paradise Hills Locos (MA)
Shelltown 38th Street (MA)
Shelltown Gamma Boys (MA)
Sherman 20th Street (MA)
Sherman 27th Street (MA)
Southeast Lokos (MA)
Southeast San Diego Locos (MA)
Southeast Tokers (MA)
Varrio Encanto Locos 66th Street (MA)
Varrio Encanto Locos 69th Street (MA)
AKRho Pinoy (P)
Asian Insane Boys (P)
Bahala Na Barkada (P)
B Down Boys (P)
Darkside Thugs (P)
Easy Going Pinoys (P)
In Too Deep (P)
Kalaban (P)
Original Genoside Boys (P)
Satanas (P)
State Side Islanders (P)
Dangerous Oriental Crips (SA)
Oriental Killer Boys (SA)
Oriental Mob Crips (SA)
Ruthless Lao Posse (SA)
Guamanian Bloods (PI)
Kuduku (PI)
Samoan Bloods (PI)
Samoan Crip 45 (PI)
Sons Of Samoa (PI)
Tongan Crips (PI)
South Bay
Brandywine Locos (MA)
Crazy Ass Latinos (MA)
Dairy Mart Locos (MA)
Del Sol (MA)
East Side National City Locos (MA)
East Side National City Block Boys (MA)
East Side National City Acre Boys (MA)
Fifth Block Crazy Locos (MA)
Imperial (MA)
National City Mid Town Klick (MA)
National City Mob (MA)
Nestor 13 (MA)
Nestor 19th Street (MA)
Old Town National City Insane Boys (MA)
Old Town National City Olden Boys (MA)
Otay Montgomery Locos (MA)
Otay Rasta Locos (MA)
Otay Riverbottom Locos (MA)
Otay 13 Boys (MA)
Palm City Locos (MA)
Palm City Familia Hispania (MA)
Sidro (MA)
South San Diego 13 (MA)
South Side Diablos (MA)
Varrio Chula Vista Grande Locos (MA)
Varrio Chula Vista G Street (MA)
Varrio Chula Vista Neighborhood Locos (MA)
Varrio Chula Vista South Bay Locos (MA)
Varrio Iris Avenue (MA)
West Side Locos (MA)
Insane Diego Mob (P)
Insane Pinoy Tribe (P)
Samahang Ilokano Gang (P)
Unique Boys (P)
East County
Casa de Oro Bloods (AA)
Brown Side Locos (MA)
El Cajon Dukes (MA)
El Cajon Locos (MA)
El Cajon Hoodlums (MA)
El Cajon Orphans (MA)
El Cajon Outlaws (MA)
El Cajon Townsmen (MA)
Lemon Grove Locos (MA)
Organizados Entre Kabrones (MA)
Santee Originals (MA)
Spring Valley Locos (MA)
Varrio Unidos Locos (MA)
Kurdish Pride Gang (MEA)
Lakeside Gangsters (W)
North County
Crook Mob Gangstas (AA)
Deep Valley Crips (AA)
East Side Crips (AA)
Gangster Disciples (AA)
Insane Crips (AA)
South Oceanside Gangster Crips (AA)
West Side Crips (AA)
Carlsbad Locos (MA)
Carnales 13 (MA)
Center Street Gang (MA)
East Side San Marcos Brown Pride Locos (MA)
Eden Gardens (MA)
Encintas Flats (MA)
Mid Valley 13 (MA)
Oceanside Wicked Surenos (MA)
South Los 13 (MA)
Valley Centro Gang (MA)
Varrio Esco Viejo East Side Gang (MA)
Varrio Esco Viejo West Side Gang (MA)
Varrio Esco Viejo Varrio Diablos (MA)
Varrio Esco Viejo Santos (MA)
Varrio Esco Viejo 13 (MA)
Varrio Mesa Locos (MA)
Varrio Posole (MA)
Varrio San Marcos Ghost Town (MA)
Varrio San Marcos Wolf Pack (MA)
Vista Home Boys (MA)
Tri City Thunder Hills (MU)
Deep Valley Bloods (PI)
Krook City Bloods (PI)
South Oceanside Posse (W)
nice list compiled there, more organized than previous lists
Winona Blood Gang (SM)
Mission Click (SM)
dang these people dont know shit.
SouthEast San Diego is the side.
Only varrios in SE are shelltown, logan, sherman, encanto, paradise hills, lomita village, lomas and market. SHELLTOWN AND SHERMAN been getting along for years. Lomita village and paradise hills have beef. Lomas has beef with logan, sherman and shelltown. lomas is in 26st. sherman in 20 to 27 st. and logan from 30 to 32. shelltown is from the 15th exit freeway in ocean view to the 805 freeway, from imperial to division. 33st to 45th. market st gang members live in market st which is a big street.
THE OLDEST GANGS IN SOUTHEAST SAN DIEGO ARE SHELLTOWN AND SHERMAN.
LOGAN WAS JUST X3 GANG.
SE TOKERS JOINED SHELLTOWN.
SOUTH EAST SAN DIEGO GANG IS FAKE CAUSE THEY AINT GOT NO VARRIO.
SHELLTOWN IS THE HOOD AND 38ST AND GBS IS THE GANG. AND GBS HAS CLICKS. 38ST GANG HAS CLICKS LIKE DEAD END BOYS AND OCEAN VIEW PARK BOYS AND 38 BLOCK. 38 BOYS THAT KICK IT IN 43RD DELTA.
EASTSIDE SAN DIEGO HAS BEEF WITH CITY HEIGHTS JRS BECAUSE WHEN JRS GOT STARTED MANY OF THEM BACKED UP EASTSIDE BUT MORE PEOPLE STARTED JOINING AND THEN THEY SPLIT UP.
SOME WANTED TO CLAIM SE AND SOME ES
BUT THEIR MID CITY.
WHEN THEM FOOS FROM JUNIORS WENT
TO JAIL THEY GOT PUNKED BY LA EME O.G'S BECAUSE JUNIORS PUT THE X3
AND THEY DINT PAY TAXES OR HAD NO STRIPES AND HAD NO RIGHT TO PUT THE X3
hey to the guy that "schooled" us on SE:
the line between Logan and Sherman is Commercial not Imperial. and vST does not start at 33rd street. thats Logan.
and you might wanna get specific with vM cuz your right-market is a big street, from downtown to Encanto. but they dont have the whole street. vM is between the 15 the 94 47th street and about halfway between market and imperial. the hoods are mount hope and chollas view. vMarket is the gang.
Lomas is between the 5 the 94 the 15 and juniper street. the hoods are golden hill and south park. Lomas is the gang.
vSherman is between the 94 the 15 commercial[trolley tracks] and the 5 plus 17th street on the other side. sherman heights grant hill and stockton are the hoods, vSherman is the gang.
Logan is betweeen commercial[trolley tracks] the 15 main street and harbor drive. the hoods are logan heights barrio logan and memorial, LHRS LH30 and LHx3 is the gangs.
vShelltown is between the 15 ocean view blvd the 805 and division. the hoods are mountain view southcrest and shelltown. 38st and GBS is the gangs.
mv73Ls is centered around mountain view park with a lot of grey areas.
theyr mainly between imperial and ocean view blvd.
as for the rest of the SE varios. they mostly have a lot of grey areas when it comes to boundaries.
if anyone else has for sure boundries on any hoods post them shits up! i'd also like to know about ESSD..
lol. The schooler got schooled! hey, but facts are facts, and you ran that gamut pretty accurately. dude was posting saying Lomas in is 26th Stret, when his post should have stated 26th street is in LOMAS. Diddo goes for the rest of his info. As well, he posted that Shelltown and Sherman were the oldest gangs. Again, 1005 completely incorrect. When I was locked up in RJD most of the older vatos had a general consensus that Logan, with it being the mecca of varrio chicanolismo that it is historically, can lay claim to being the oldest Southeast Varrio. Sherman is actually an offshoot of Logan, and that was verified when I was locked up by older homies that had 17th street stamped on them. As a matter of fact, you can google some images of the old Sherman 17th street hit ups. Very old and well known back in the day. So, we can say that, in no particular order, other hoods came to be shortly, and I do use the term loosely, after Logan was established.
Here is a good trivia question to the youngsters. How or do you know why Shelltown is actually called that and not Southcrest? My old celly Munchie from Shelltown gave me the 411 and you youngsters should know your shit about the Varrio you claim! The same goes for Sherman and Logan. See, Logan was named for an old congressman from the 1800's. In 1871, Congressman John A. Logan wrote legislation to provide federal land grants and subsidies for a transcontinental railroad ending in San Diego. A street laid in 1881 was named Logan Heights after him, and the name came to be applied to the general area. Plans for a railroad never successfully materialized, and the area was predominantly residential by the turn of the century, becoming one of San Diego's oldest communities. Its transformation began in 1910 with the influx of refugees of the Mexican Revolution, who soon became the majority ethnic group. For this reason, residents and non-residents alike now call the southern part of the neighborhood Barrio Logan, though officially it remains part of Logan Heights.
And as for Sherman, come on now, follow up and do the homework! I know, so you should be able to find out. OTNC, City Heights, all the info can be found online through historic registries. Don't be ignorant vatos and find out! I'll follow up with the East Side boundaries tomorrow.
On another note, let's post up of who is getting into it with who. We need the clecha. Orale!
i been waiting for those ES boundaries forever haha its wierd cuz im always in eastside[my girl lives there..] but dont know the specific boundaries, but i pretty much know of the more ESD populated areas.. in a way.
but the hoods i previously posted on [SM LH LM ST] are pretty much common knowledge. at least it should be. im a youngster[19], dont bang[or a wannabe] &dont even live in the hood anymore[not since i was a kid] &i know more than some of these young guys that "bang". c'mon.
it looks like theres a few of us that are on here keeping up some good convo lets keep that shit going..
is anybody on here 40+? ever heard of SanDiegoSkinHeads? it was actually a krew of mexicans not white guys that mostly listen to punk rock in eastside probly around the early 80s. this was before skinhead meant what we know of it now.
oh yeah &Lonewolf WHERE YOU BEEN??
Ok. The East Sider Boundaries. Let's begin with East Side in general, encompassing Fairmount Village, Colina Parque, Cherokee Point, City Heights, Mid-City, Hollywood Park, Azelea, and all in between. North Park and Normal Heights are NOT part of East Side, so we'll leave that out.
Ok, so, East side can technically begin on the East Side of the 805 Freeway on Wabash can be called the West End Boundary, since right across the street from the Car Wash there is a tower that clearly says MID CITY on it. go and take a look. It is a yellow and black sign. continuing east, the Varrio consumes all along University Avenue and El Cajon Boulevard, all the blocks in between (Orange, Meade, Polk, etc.) it continues to 54 Street proper, which is the End of East Side. Now the North border consists of Adams Avenue. It runs west to east proper along the top of of East Side from the 805 on Adams, all the way into the fringes of the SDSU pass/Fairmount Avenue. On the South End, the border is Home Avenue plain and simple. That is East Side proper in a nutshell. As for the clicks involved, I can say that ESD x3 has clicks located throughout, with of course AE on Euclid (now the defunct locale), and the Evil Boys on Fairmount and Poplar. As for the other clicks, I do know some Juniors that kick it on Marlborough, and of course the LH Clicka boyz are by Colina Park. If anyone can touch on the other clicks, or provide feedback, please do so. Gracias.
VARRIO IRIS AVENUE 901 GANG SSD 13
Two stories i heard about Shelltown getting the name:
1)The Navy used to have a huge surplus of large ammunition shells that were stored in that area. When the Navy closed the yard, the area was developed , and the developer named it Shelltown."
2) Fossil shells were dug up when they developed that area, and the developer named it "Shelltown."
I don't know if either of those stories are true.
Sherman Heights was named after a land developer named Matthew Sherman. He was a captain in the navy that lived in "New San Diego," in the end of the 19th century. He was the very first Sherman vato! His house was on 19th and J, and it was the first house in that area. He helped develope that area after selling a huge tract of it to the City of San Diego. BTW=he is buried in Mt. Hope Cemetary. All you C20 and C27 fools better go pay your respects to him! He's the true Sherman OG!!! A crazy white boy!!!
Otay-Named after the Native American band of Kumayaays known as the Otais. They inhabited the Otay River valley. Otai means "brushy," or "brush," in the Kumayaay language. And the Otais were a southern band of the Kumayaay. Coincidentally the "town" of Otay was around before Chula Vista was incorporated into a city. Otay was around since the end of the 1800's, and Chula Vista was incorporated in 1910. In the 1980's, CV annexed Otay into its City.
National City-Named after Rancho de la Nacion. A mexican ranch that was sold a french developer after California became a state. tThe Kimball brothers (Kimball Park)purchased the land from the developer. The northwest part of the ranch was developed into National (Nacional) City. The eastern part was developed into Bonita and Sunnyside. And the southern part was developed into Chula Vista.
Harborside-neighborhood of west Chula Vista (the neighborhood that VCV was started in). The neighborhood actually ran all the way to the bay before the 50's, and there was a harbor there. Now the neighborhood stops at HWY 5. The borders of Harborside are Oxford to L Street, Fifth Avenue to HWY 5.
Lemon Grove-used to be a large lemon orchard for the citrus industry.
Those are the only ones that I know of.
Wop Town and ESD have been done on here.
How about Del Sol? Is it just because of Del Sol Blvd, or is there more history behind it?
is there 2 different EBKs?
theres the Evil Boys, but what about EastBoundKrew? im still confused as to whether that started from the same shit?
Speaking of Sherman 17th Street. I also heard that there used to be a Sherman 19th Street gang.
Others I heard of, but do not know if they are true are:
Logan 28th Street-supposedly came up in the late 70's, but shut down by Red Steps. Ex-gangster from Red Steps told me this
Logan 35th Street-On National and 35th during the 70's, but shut down by Shelltown when Shelltown expanded into Southcrest and Mountain View. I think this is bogus though.
I know that there was a Shelltown 36th Street in the 70's, and a Shelltown Delta Boys in the 70's. Some OG from shelltown schooled me on those. An ST OG I saw even has 36 on his stomach.
And about Harborside: A lot of youngsters in the South Bay swear there was a "Harborside Varrio" at one time. This isn't true! I don't know how that shit got started.
The only gang that has ever controlled Harborside is VCV. Back in the late 50's a small group of cholos that lived in Harborside formed a gang for protection from Otay (later known as Varrio Loco Otay or Otay 13). The gang was first known simply as "Chula Vista." Later, through the 60's, they went by "Chula Vista Boys," "Chula Vista Gang," and "Chula Vista Locos," but it was all the same gang, it was just a play on the name. In the early 70's, the gang became known as "Varrio Chula Vista."
VCV controlled Harborside until about the early 90's. Then the abandoned Duke tomato plant, and the junkyard next to it were redeveloped into a small buisness complex. Redevelopment, plus the long imprisonment of a lot of VCV heads ended up cleaning up that area.
From the mid-90's to recently, it has been a relatively gang free area- Meaning that no hood (Otay, VCV, or a fictional Harborside Varrio) resided in that area. However, I have been seeing a lot of VCV Grande Loco hit ups throughout Harborside again, and I have been seeing alot of cholos gathered in the alley way just west of Broadway off of Naples Street on a daily basis.
About who's getting into it. All the same rivalries as before. VCV and Otay have been going at it hardcore lately. Straight gladiator style!!! There has been a lot of rumbles in both territories lately. It's too bad that most of them happen in parks-where little kids are playing. Not sure if that latest shooting on E has something to do with it. Some dude got blasted right in his front yard, in front of his family.
okay but check this out, we all know that home ave is the southern border of eastside but it turns north right up into euclid ave. or go right and you step into oak park[ES or SE??] i know ES doesnt stop at this junction ya know what imean? cuz technically if you follow home ave all the way thru to euclid ave, it just takes you right up into the middle of another part of ES. i know the if you make a right where home and euclid meet and then make an immediate left you go thru altadena. ive noticed a few DA hitups here, is that the spot for them? so i mean between euclid and 54th and university it seem like a grey area.
good shit tho on the info up there..
Right on in regards to the Shelltown name. The homie Munch told me it was becuase they actually dug up shells in that area. I am going to find out about the Military casings. VERY INTERESTING and I can see how that is feasible with the base on Main. I'll look into. Thanks for the NC info and Otai. And I read about Sherman in the Reader. It is a trip que no?!
Yes, I do recall East Side Skinheads! Oh shit. The boss is coming. I'll finish in a bit. Lates.
what do you remember about the skinheads??
by the way these comments should be automatically posted now, theres not so much random netbanging anymore..
Can anyone from Southeast tell me abouy C46LS?? I've seen new hitups off of Imperial Avenue the say C46LS and SE C46LS. Is that a click of some other gang or is it a new gang? I think that area is in SE Lokos hood.
The Skinheads were a group of punk rock Mexicans that all shaved their heads. They did it to honor and respect one of their boys who was diagnosed with cancer and of course, he lost his hair and so they all did it to support him. I'll tell you how I know this. One of the original members is a tattoo artist at The Church of Steel tattoo studio in downtown. He has a ESSH tattoo on the back of his neck. I asked him about it and he ran the story by me. He is a cool dude but man he is scary looking! The vato actually has fangs in his mouth that makes him look like a vampire. One of those crazy pierced out vatos, but he is cool.
Great! That's all we need. ANOTHER SouthEast click. I got a new nickname for fools like that. How about we start calling them "Millenium Bangers" since they all started now. lol.
You know, I don't know about the EB East Side thing. From what was previously posted, Two AEK boys were the original founders of EBK, it was like a motto, a slogan for AEK, and some millenium toys ran with it. BUt I do know the Martinelli Brothers from East Side started the Evil Boys click (Capone and Chris Loco). I used to chill with them, cool vatos. But I don't know about EBK and I do still see it hit up, but I don't know if it is still independent or one of the same.
About the East Side Boundaries, you are right about the Grey Areas, becuase see, that is why the Area directly South of East Side is called South East. See, it is geographically East Side, then South. And it is funny becuase I was by Fam Bam the other day and I saw a bunch of Varrio Oak Park hit ups and they claim South East. But it is funny because kind of like the way Lomas chooses to not claim a side, because technically they aren't South East, and they sure as hell are not in East Side, I think Oak Park should jump off the South East bandwagon, because I tell you what, since back in the days Oak Park NEVER, NEVER EVER wrote that SE shit next to their hood. They are in that grey area, between East Side and South East. But I guess they chose to adapt the SE handle because of their constant beef with East Side. But Oak Park is one of those hoods that doesn't really beef it with people and they sort of remain dormant. I am not knocking them, but telling it like it is. Anyone is more than welcome to comment and contest my post. Oh, and scrolling a few posts up, I see that someone wrote that 93K was SEK, GI'K and APS. you got one right, but that is about it. My sister used to date Crums from SEK back in the day and that joven told me about it. See, 93K was a collective of SEK, UFK (formerly APS), and TMK. As a matter of fact, right there by Mount Miguel High School in Spring Valley there is a wall taht still has an old 93K tag that says SEK, TMK, UFK. It was then that the other side responded with the AEK, SKA, RTS collective, which in itself turned into the K187 collabo with UNO in that mix as well.
There is a 93k tag still up? Thats dope! Would you mind hitting me up through through flickr mail about the exact location? If possible, i would like to get a photo of it before it is eventually buffed, or scribbled over by some toy who doesnt know any better.
As for UFK being descended from APS...are you sure? I really dont know shit about the matter but from the outside looking in it seems to me like UF and APS are in two totally different leagues. No disrespect to UF, they are one of the city's known and respected bombing crews...but with a member that writes PERSUE? LOL...nuff said.
KEE UFK was on my flickr page a while ago, he said that 93K included NSH as well as TMK and SEK. But again, i dont really know anything about that whole collective. I just remember (even after 1993) i would see random fools put dates on their tags(94K, 95K, 96K).... and i'd be like "Why are you putting a K there? it's a year, not a crew." LOL
once again, good shit on the knowledge. and if its 'Art' that your referring to from house of steel then i know we're on the same page about the skinheads. i guess my dad was a part of that krew, but he's never said anything about it, i just overheard a couple stories when i was kid when we had parties &shit at the pad, &then one of his old homies told me about it..
oak park probably claims SE because theyr too small and weak to not have theyr SE confederates to "back them up". if i could draw the lines on the map, they WOULD BE in ES. they would be on a border, but and they should have to defend it, not run to the SE side because its "more established".
your right Lomas holds their own without latching on to SE.
please somebody let me know the deal but does anyone take vOakPark serious? &too me its not even like they are dormant. vMarket is dormant, but still handles shit. vOP acts more like one of these millenium krews.
and the millenium krew thing is getting outta control. i wonder does that shit happen in la?
Hold up this is for the stupid little kid from Linda Vista and that other kid that bangs the Sur alone {without a hood,I know lame because he's only about 16} posting false shit on youtube about Mission Bay (search X302 gang) He says "LV started MB back in the 80's" and that they bang Compton.... Hold up this little girl is telling me my history of the nieghborhood my dad and uncles claimed and the block I grew up in?
2 words fool HELL NO. I cant inform the kid on youtube because he just keeps on posting "Fuck Meko Bay" so let me spit the truth.
MB banged 132 in the mid 70s as in 13 for la "EME" and 2 for la "BE"
around the time many Sandiego hoods were fucking with the number digit codes. They later added the
"O" from 132 to 1302 just because 4 digits sounds better than 3. OKAY clear LV boy, and the comment about LV started MB , ok that one fucking heated me up when theres actual fucking proof on the sidewalks of GRAND AVENUE that read
"EME'BE'XIII" and right underneath it "EST 1971" as an official hood of 40 or more heads at the time. But from what my uncles and dad and older og's say there was vatos bangin MB in the mid 60s but without the 13 and just Varrio Mission Bay. You see Sandiego as well as Los Angeles varrios wernt to crazy about the 13 in the 60s and 70s and I have more proof. I have flickas of Mission Bay heads this one in particular is from 78' and In it shows "BAM BAM" "FERNIE" and "LEFTY" and ones wearing a red bandana with a blue flanel jacket as the other 2 have 2 other red bandanas folded over ther shoulders
red or blue didnt matter or wasnt influencing southern cali cities. There clear? and quit yapping your lips like a little girl and talking shit over a keyboard disrespecting my homeboys and R.I.Ps because everyone and every hood has dirt on somebody. PEACE
I hope you get at me
VARRIO OLD TOWN SAN DIEGO LOCOS X3!V.OTSD.X3LS!SMOKEY,YOGI,CLEVER,DROOPY,LYOGI,WICKED,LIL STRANGER,CLUMZY,LIL ONE,GIZMO,PEWEE,JOKER,SILLY BOY,GUILTY BOY,SHY BOY,SHAGGY,MIKLO,SILENT BIG STRANGER,BIG D,DREAMER,LIL DREAMER,SCOOBY,SHAGGY,LOONEY,DOPEY,PANTHER,GRUMPY,OSO,INDIO,NETO,CHATO,CHUEY,SPANKY,SLEEPY,LIL SLEEPY,RASCAL,MORENO,PAYASO,SHADOW,TRISTE,KNOCKOUT,VILLAIN,LAZY,DROWZY,FROG,LIZARD,GHOST,BULLET,STONER,VAMPY,LARGO,SNOOPY,CHINO GRANDE,TRAVIESO,LALO,RUNNER,CROOKS!AND TO THE REST OF THE HOMIS I DIDNT MENTION WEST UP ESES!BIG PRESIDIO PARK WEST SIDERS!SURENOS13!
clairemont drive area belongs to the ws fk crews around!like BR(BROWN RIDERS)LM(LOONEY MOBB)UIS (UP IN SMOKE)THC(TIME HAS COME)DM(DEMENTED MINDS)!CLAIREMONT MESA BLVD BELONGS TO VARRIO CLAIREMONT(CLMT13 OR VC13)!WS FK IS NOT A CREW ITS A SAYING FOR WEST SIDE WANNABIES THAT CANT HANG WITH THE TAGGERS!JUST LIKE SE RK IS NOT A CREW THEY ARE SOUTH EAST TAGGER WANNABEES!
MY HOOD OTSD13 ISNT LIKE IT USED TO BE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP MUCH OF THE HOMES AND APARTMENTS WERE TORN DOWN TO MAKE HOTELS AND MUSEAMS!BUT HOMIES STILL LIVE AND POST UP IN THE HOOD PUTTING IT DOWN AND WE HOLD OUR OWN AGAINST ANY HATERS!
OTSD13 ALSO HAVE HOMIES COMING FROM MORENA BLVD AREA!EXPANDING THERE HOOD TOWARDS THE MORENA TROLLEY STATION!EXPANDING THE HOOD TOWARDSTHE PRESIDIO AREA!PLENTY OF SOLDIERS POSTED AND YEAH BEHIND THE DOG POUND!
I can vouch for that homie from OTSD. I lived in Morena in from 2005-2007 by the pound on Gaines ST. There used to be a homie that walked around with no shirt all the time, and he had OTSD on his chest. I used to see hit ups by the trolley station, right in front of the SDPD western division station!
There also used to be a homie from Linda Vista (big LV tatto on his stomach), a gangster from LVC (always blued up, and always rocked a hat with blue LV on hit), and a tagger from LMC that lived by there too. I used to see LV13 hitups in the laundry mat by USD, and on the street I lived on all the time (Lauretta).
That area seems like where OTSD and LV13 varrio meet. It's a pretty decent neighborhood, but there are a couple of torn up apartment building that all the hoodsters live in. There wasn't a lot of crime there, but one night some vato blasted at someone walking in an alleyway by Riley Street.
One funny thing I remember was that I used to see VCV GLS hitups with LV13 by the Montgomery Middle School. In the same color paint, but different styles Are they cool with each other? i guess a homie from Chula Vista was living by there.
I know that Gamma Boys and 38th Street get along with Sherman, and OTNC and West Side Locos get along with each other. But is there any other friendy ties between other SD varrios?
Please Lonewolf, con respeto, let these comments fly. I would hate to be censored schooling the ingnorant. I just hate phoneez and I'll call them when I spot them. On to the vato from OTSD13.
here is how I knw you are full of shit. You stated " the hood ain't liek it used to be when I was growing up. They tore down the houses and Apartamentos for Museams and Hotels". Well for one, all the hotels over there are OLD, such as the Best Western Hacienda which was made in 1988 (20 years old) and the Park Manor Suites which was constructed in 1923, and most of the MUSEUMS in Old Town were created in 1971. So unless you are 85 years old which would place you at the birthdate of the Park Manor, or you are older than 20 to see the Best Western Hacienda constructed, or you are older than 37 to see the MUSEUMS go up in place, which by the way, there were no fucking apartments to tear down, you are a fucking fake wannabe mocoso. So get your SHIT STRAIGHT ABOUT YOUR AMUSEMENT PARK WANNA BE HOOD. You fucking PHONY.
i also rememember that the holiday in in back of freemont elementary was built in 1996!they torn down the section eight apartments that used to be held there!yeah and i think the trolley station in old town was not there it was built about 17 years ago!!!these foos hating has nada to be talkin bout just some foo that got kicked out of myspace for talkin too much masa!
i wanna know about eden gardens eg's (la colonia)!yeah where lil rob's from!wats up wit that hood is it still active???
Ey que pasa Raza. This is the Werewolf jumping in here for a moment to remind you all to keep it "Hate Free."
I read each and every comment before I either let it fly or not in here. There's been some requests made that I should let it all just flow and not to censor anything, but I got to tell you all. If I was to do that, then these pages would fill up so quickly with netbanging and unwelcomed remarks with insults and whatnot flying all over the place. So I'm not going to allow for that. I made the mistake before of letting it all come out, then I found myself doing a lot of cleaning up. So I ain't going there again. I like to spend time learning from all of you so that I can piece together additional stories and histories to display here.. So I appreciate your participation, but in order for me to concentrate on the positive and keep it going here, I must use some censorship to keep things cool around here. Personal insults from one contributor to another, or dissing this or that varrio ain't how this place handles. So just a heads up for all of you. If you're with me on this, que a toda madre, and if you're not, oh' well, ay te wacho y hasta la vista Homie.
MI CASA ES SU CASA
SO LET US ALL SHOW RESPECT
Firmado,
Lonewolf
i just came back from the desert i spent new years over in plaster city which is just east of the imperial county line if you go all the way east on the 8. the nearest town Seeley was like 4 or 5 miles from there. i noticed a few hitups near the spot we were at that said SeeleyGangX3 or SLYx3 and one that crossed out IMPx3. i dont know if thats the clika from imperial beach or if its something different(imperial county something?)
anyways it got me wondering if anyone knows anything about the gangs/clikas/crews in imperial county. if anything im assuming theyr all really really small cuz thats what the towns are there, really really small. oh and also if anybody knows if theres anything in all the little random small towns out there in the boonies of SD county like campo or dulzura or descanso or pine valley etc..
on a sidenote we stopped at a gas station somewhere off the 8 in the middle of nowhere[but still in SD county] and i checked out the restrooms(no homo) and there was a whole shitload of tags &hitups in them. everything from MDR and LD to SEK to LV70s. there was few things i didnt recognize tho. anyone ever heard of WS KrazyTown13?
im guessing its not from san diego. unless its something from north county, cuz im not that familiar with that.
anyone know what gas station im talkin about? i think the town was Jacumba..
There are alot of gangs out there in the Imperial Valley, along with a shitload of Los transplants. I went to a car show out there this past spring of 08' and they had a mini-concert with the vatos from High-Power on stage. Along with the usual following of LA car clubs, there were quite a few vatos that I chopped it up with that called the IMP Valle home. I talked to a vato named CHINO from ESC (East Side Centro) who told me about the local scene. He said it used to be a firme valle back in the days, but since the tweek took over in the 90's, it has become a sparktown. He said alot of the LA vatos come out to work and are granted permission from their Parole Department to transfer, but only the hardcore vatos come out to work, since in the summer temperatures can reach 120 daily and no one wants to hustle in that heat, except ex cons who are used to being on the yard out there in Blythe, Ironwood, Calipatria , etc. He said the whole work force is 99% raza, with no negros, since they can't take the heat literally.
yup its becuz alott of homeboys that got deported come to hop the border and they come in from tha backcountry ey no lie en serio you can also see big maras13 hitups and lots of other barrios hit up in the country side its a trip k-no and yup lots of homeboys from difrint gangas go to calexico and I to have homeboys that live in brawley from my hood and they is barrio brawley 13 and all the towns have varrios but they don bang like we do they just 13 becusae they are imperial valley
great posts on the IMP V. You two are correct on your assessments. There are many transplants from LA in the IMP, but the locals hold it down crazy as well. From what I know, North Side Centro is the click putting in work right now. They all beef with each other. All the sides. There are quite a few nice hinas out there as well, but man, the heat in the summer is unbearable. I saw some vatos working on a powerlink project a few years back, and they had to take MANDATORY water drenching breaks every 1/2 hour. And you know how alot of vatos, myself included, like to take a trago on the job (a tallboy for lunch), well over there it was too damn hot for a pisto outside! All drinking was done inside in A/c cold as fuck cantinas. Shouts out to my homeboy Weecho out there for my tats.
Anyway, as for the back country in Jacumba, yea, the U/T had an article a while back about how there are a shit load of tags on the rocks, and it is because vatos that are illegally entering again through the back country have some paintura and hit up those big ass rocks. They showed a rock that looked like a fucking wall in the ghetto, all tagged up and crossed out with the Bratz, 18 street, Otay, etc. I used to go shooting out there at a off side location in Alpine, and there was a scenic restroom stop that was all hit up as well. With mobility, lots of people tag, so it isn't uncommon like the bathroom to see shit tagged up. I am sure some of you have driven to Las Vegas and have encountered the same shit. Tags in the middle of fucking nowhere! lol.
Qvo SD. SHOOTER NCSSM13
San Diego Four Corners Gang was Located near Imperial where Jamacha Blvd, Skyline(Cardiff), Imperial/ Euclid etc. all came together. Lomita, Spring Valley, Lemon Grove and Encanto were the four corners. Varrio Sur Trece members lived in the area and decided to start up a new Gang. Not sure what happened with that one though. Seems they are defunct now.
In re: Four Corners. I was under the impression back in the days that Four Corners was actually FCW, which is Four Corners of the World, which took it's name in part to it being a multi-national gang, and I also met a hyna from there named La Smiley who told me that they had people in Washington, here in SD, Miami, and on the Northeastern Seaboard, which hence would indicate the "Four Corners". I do know that they had a couple people in the military in their clicka, but this was circa 1993, so I don't know what happened. Can anyone verify?
THIS SD VARRIOS THREAD IS GETTING WAY TOO LONG. I'M THINKING MAYBE I SHOULD BREAK IT DOWN INTO NORTH COUNTY SD, EAST COUNTY SD, SOUTH BAY SD, EAST & SOUTH EAST SD, AND WEST SIDE SD. AND I'M ALSO THINKING OF DOING DEDICATED PAGES FOR THOSE VARRIOS WHICH THERE'S ENOUGH 411 TO HAVE THEIR OWN THREAD. I BELIEVE THERE'S ENOUGH MATERIAL TO DEDICATE PAGES TO SHELL TOWN, EAST SIDE, OLD TOWN NC, MISSION BAY AND A COUPLE MORE. ANYWAYS, ANY IDEAS OR SUGGESTIONS?
I'M ALL OREJAS!
I agree Lonewolf. Break it down like you did the Los section. It would help keep things in order and we can just check on the sections that we are interested in. I can see these comments bubbling to over a gee if we don't get it in order. Anything we can do to help. But one thing, can you please post my last comment on FCW? Gracias.
Oh, on feedback from your inquiry. I think you should break up the sections like this: SAN DIEGO CITY LIMITS (East Side, SouthEast, Downtown, Mission Bay, etc.), SOUTH BAY, EAST COUNTY, AND NORTH COUNTY. Then we can get underneith the umbrella without too many technicalities. Just my two cents.
orale! do that shit LW!
ALRIGHT, I'LL GET TO WORKING ON IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME SOME TIME TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. I'LL MAKE IT TOP PRIORITY BEFORE ALL THE OTHER STORIES I WAS WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER.
FCW was never from SESD! I don't know why that one dude is talking out his ass about FCW being a 13 gang from SESD. That other cat is knows what' up though.
To set the record straight:
FCW=Four Corners of the World, AKA Four Corners, AKA Six Trey Duce Trey
It was a multiethnic South Side gang. I remember them having whites, African Americans, Mexican Americans, Pinoys, Guamanians, Samoans, and Puerto Ricans.
FCW was from the Otay Mesa neighborhood. Their turf was in between Del Sol's and Nestor's turf (roughly 905 to Palm Avenue, and Beyer to I to 5). The heart of their territory was right about were Varrio Iris Avenue's turf is now (27th Street and Iris). But, they had cats spread out through SSD and I think a few in Chula Vista.
FCW was started up by a couple of bothers (or Cousins?) from Chicago that relocated to South San Diego in the mid 80's. The pair from Chicago were from a multiethnic gang called 4Corner Hustlers (4CH).
They soon recruited locals of any ethnicity to start up a new gang. The new gang was a sort of "hub for a drug network between SD, Chicago, and other areas of the country where there were other relocated 4CH's. The gang was named "Four Corners of the World," in homage to the 4CH roots, and since the gang was multiethnic, and also because they had contacts in Chicago, Miami, NYC, and Seattle.
FCW was part of the South San Diego "Insane Family." Not to be confused with the Linda Vista Insane Family. The SSD Insane Family was a confederation of two multiethnic gangs (FCW and South Side Syco Posse, AKA S3P), and a predominantly Pinoy gang (Insane Diego Mob).
The ethnic make up of FCW started to change after one of their heads (Paco) commited suicide during a police standoff in the Montgomery High School parking lot. The standoff occurred right after Paco and his homies went on a countywide robbery spree, that culminated in a high speed police pursuit. Paco told his homies to bail and run, while he held the police off at gun point. He ended up shooting himself instead of letting the PD take him.
Soon after the Paco incident (late 80's), a lot of the older cats were getting out of the pokey, and they brought the "racially segregated" attitude back with them. A lot of the African Americans and Mexican Americans dropped out of FCW. Some Mexican Americans set hopped into 13 gangs, and some African Americans moved to SESD and set hopped into or Crip gangs (WCC). Most of the whites dropped out around that time too. Most of the members that were left were Pinoy, and FCW soon became a predominanlty Pinoy gang, until it went inactive around the mid 90's.
Peace to:
Paco (RIP)
Tugboat
Oscar
Old Man
Benji Loc
Big Mike
from FCW
big bad LHC ls sr grumpy keeping it
real always clickero till i die fools saludos al Lil Vago.Big Vago
Cricket,killer,lucky,Midnite,Wicked
Magic,Smiley,Whisper,Looney,Panther
Scrapy,and ese Lil Man (rip) much
love to all you vatos hey I may be
in Tijuas but my heart has always been with you vatos alrato
damn the info on FCW sounds like it would make a good movie.
&where exactly is the area that LHC kicks it at? i seen a few hitups on the boulevard between 50th and 54th. im sure that conflicts with ESD?
Hey ke onda lonewolf I think its pretty firme what you got going here you know letting the homies express them selves pero como tu dices tampoco vamos a ser bang en tu espacio i aint down with that shit either so alrato homeboy stay down ese till then SR.Grumpy LHCls you dont gotta post this alrato
Another thing about FCW...when the Mexican Americans dropped out, did they started Varrio Iris Avenue? IA 13 started about the same time that FCW broke apart, and their hood is in the area that used to be FCW's turf. Iris Avenue has a clika called Insane Familia. Is that where that clika got its name from?
In Chula Vista, FCW had a spot near the Otay Riverbottom, on Main Street and Walnut Drive. It's across from Riverbottom Locos turf. The area was called "Nigger Hill." I have been told that the "Nigger Hill" name dates back to the 1930's (I had family in Otay from the 1920's to 1980's). I don't mean to be offensive...I'm just saying that's what locals (including blacks) called it. A lot of people in the late 80's used to also call it "Little Compton." The real name of the neighborhood is Woodlawn Park. The neighborhood sits on a hill, and it used to be predominantely black (now it's almost all Mexican).
That neighborhood used to be puro ghetto! All the houses were trashed, and there were a lot of crack heads, junkies, and tweakers that roamed that area. There were abandoned stripped cars all over, and trash in the streets. There were no sidewalks either, so the streets and driveways used to get all muddy. The is a park there called Los Ninos. It was all fucked up! It had a bathroom that had a gaping rotting hole in the roof. And 95% of the time the lights were busted out, so the bathrooms were dark. There was a hole in the wall of the girls restroom that perverts would look through. The grass was yellow, and there were bald spots that would turn into mud pools in the rain. Homies from Otay and some black gangsteres used to always kick it at that park.
A lot of the old houses were sold to developers and contractors, and they were tore down. And, the City of Chula Vista finally tore down the old bathroom, and put up a brand new one, and they put new turf in. The area looks a lot nicer than it used to! Once the area cleaned up, the Victory Outreach there moved out!
There were a few crips that used to live in that area..but I don't think there was ever an established black gang there. I think those crips used to travel back and forth from SESD, and they claimed West Coast 30's.
Another note about Otay:
My family settled in Otay in 1920, and I learned some history about Otay from some of my great uncles.
Here's another thing about the Otay/Otai name: Silvas Street off of Main Street was named after a Kumeyaay family that lived in Otay. They were supposedly from the Otai band of the Kumeyaays. Some of the family is still alive, and I think they live on the Pala Reservation in North County now.
My uncles have told me that Otay as a gang dates back to the late 1930's/early 1940's. They used to beef with homies from San Ysidro and National City (before they called themselves OTNC) back then.
They used to call themselves Barrio Otay in the late 30's and 40's. Then they called themselves Otay Yatos in the 50's and 60's. Then in the 1970's they started calling themselves Varrio Loco Otay (VLO)/Otay 13(O13). Now, I noticed that they add an S to VLO (VLSO), for Varrio LocoS Otay.
The Otay Riverbottom Locos (RBLS) gang came around in the 1970's and they beefed with VLO for a short time until they clicked up with VLO.
Now here's were it gets confusing. An ex-member from Del Sol told me this: There was a sub click of Otay RBLS called Del Sol that used to kick it on Otay Mesa above the riverbottom (The Palm Avenue and Beyer Way area of South San Diego). Del Sol decided to spilt from RBLS once they clicked up with VLO, and Varrio Del Sol was formed. Del Sol and Otay have been bitter enemies since the split.
That area of Otay Mesa was a lot different back in the 60's and 70's. It was tore up, and had a lot of shanty-like houses. There were also little Dairy Farms in that area too. I guess the actual area, or neighborhood, was called Del Sol, but now it's just called Otay Mesa. Supposedly, Palm Avenue in Chula Vista (in the Otay river bottom)connected with Palm Avenue in South San Diego via a dirt road back then. Anyway, my uncles said Otay's turf actually went from Anita Street all the way down to Sidros turf back in the day, before the Del Sol spilt off.
The Rasta Locos click of VLO came up in the mid 1980's. Now some young dude told me that there is a new click called "13Boys" or "Trece Boys." I have heard that there used to be a click of Otay 13 called Castle Park Locos ( CPLS)back in the 70's/80's. But I don't know if that's true. And a Otayero from the 70's told me that he never heard of that.
Otay 13 used to be deep! Probably was one of the biggest gangs in San Diego, if not the biggest at certain points. Now it is a lot smaller. Otay is probably the most hoody area of the South Bay. I even think National City is a lot nicer than Otay (I live on Divsion and Highland). Otay reminds me of parts of SESD.
alright so what about the Del Sol Riders click? are they the homies from Del Sol that decided to stay with VLO rather than vDelSol??
and how did BrandyWineLs come to be? they mine as well be part of Otay.
Orale. Good clecha going on lately eh! To those kicking much knowledge, we appreciate it homes. Setting the info on FCW and the historia on Otay is heavy. I wish there was more dialogue like that going on! To the vato that asked about the LHClicka, I knew the vatos that started the Click back in 1990. It was Villain and Penguin from 30ta that were among the early vatos. Along with Smurf, Stranger, and Tweety. The Click history is posted a couple pages back. In regards to territory, the default spot for the Clicka Boys used to be Colina Park, and they mainly lived at the ghetto Apartments on Bates Street. I don't know what's up now though, as demographics may have changed.
Del Sol Riders=DSR. They are puro Del Sol..I see Otay always crossing DSR out, and DSR crossing Otay out. Del Sol Riders is just another clicka of Del Sol. Are they even still around? I think them and the Vagos went inactive in the 90's.
DSV-Del Sol Vagos
DSG-Del Sol Gente
DSM-Del Sol Malditos
DS APT-Del Sol Apartment Boys
DS DELS-Del Sol Dead End Locos
DSC1-Del Sol Crazy Ones
DSSC-Del Sol Sun City
DSRC-Del Sol Ruff City
Ruff City Locos (AKA Ruffneck Locos)used to be a tagger crew in the 90's. They started bangin (RC13, RCLS13) against Del Sol, Palm CityLS, and CALS (around 2001?). Recently they clicked up with Del Sol! I heard some of Del Sol's clickas are beefin with each other now.
Brandywine Locos was started by a homeboy that moved down from Long Beach in the mid 80's. I think he was from East Side Longos. That homie recruited locals around Brandywine Avenue and Sequoia Street in Chula Vista. Everyone says that they OG's who were recruited were Otay rejects. They have always been a small gang, but a few of their older homeboys are down as fuck. You can catch a couple of them fresh out, sporting big BWLS and 13 tatoos at the liquor store in that area. Anyway, I guess the OG from Long Beach was murdered not long after BWLS was started up. The closest varrios to BWLS is Del Sol (a freeway exit away to the south), and Otay River Bottom Locos(west of the 805). They beef with Otay, but i don't know if they beef with or any other gang in CV (VCV, WSLS, FBLS). I don't know their status with DS either. BWLS is the only gang east of the 805 in Chula Vista.
A funny thing about that area...it's not that hoody, but there is a lot of tweek going around. There is always something crazy happening at the liquor store off of Brandywine and Sequoia. The area is mainly townhouses and condos, and pretty decent looking, but there are a load of hoodsters around there (and a decent amount of wanna be's).
One of the OG's that headed the Chula Vista South East Lokos click came out of that area too. He was a cool homie. I think he is the only one out the Chula Vista SELKS click that made it out of the hood life. The rest are locked up for life, or they are always in and out of the pokie. SELokos had a click that held turf in the Hilltop and Naples area of CV in the 90's. It is sorta like how LHC holds turf in City Heights.
Peace and shout outs to:
OG Happy (SELKS)
OG Bandit (SELKS)
OG Casper (SELKS)
OG Chico (SELKS)
OG Bala (SELKS)
OG Midnight (VCV)
OG Camel (VCV)
OG Puppet(VCV)
OG Oso (VCV)
OG Shaggy (VLO)
OG Snoopy (VLO)
Mr. Cholo (OTNC)
OG Moster (OTNC)
Mumbles (NCLS)
Oso (SSM)
OG Capone (ST38)
OG Kobra (ST38)
OG Huero-RIP-(VMLS)
Droopy RIP (SS Diablos)
OG Camel (Imperial)
OG Sapo (Imperial)
Casper (CSL)
Lil' Angel (Nestor)
Big Yogi (IDM)
Paco-RIP-(FCW)
Tugboat (FCW)
Pookie (CP Mob)
Whats up with East Side Picador Blvd? Is that a real clicka? I see it hit up on bus benches in Del Sol's hood off of Beyer. i also see ESPB and PBLS in the same area. Why are they claiming ES if their varrio is in SS? Is their hood on the East Side of the street? LOL
EsE GrUmPy Original
LHCls
putting it down in rival
territory always
Great post about DS. By the way, the local SD READER did a huge piece on the South East Lokos and on Happy (David Mejia). You can look it up online. They did some major dirt and even chronicled the murders. Funyy thing is, Happy was a very smart man and was in graduate school about to get his Masters Degree in Sociology. He had already graduated and obtained his 4 year degree.
By the way, can you give us some clecha about SS Diablos? I never heard of the clicka. Are they still active? Gracias.
About Happy (Medina not Mejia)...the media tried to portray him as "moonlighting" as a gangster by night, and that many people involved with him did not know he was affiliated. Everybody involved with him pretty much knew he was affiliated, and he was always a SE Loko before anything else. He had been banging since he was 15, and he was documented by CVPD and SDPD. He is a very intelligent man that made many horrible mistakes.
SS Diablos, AKA Sur Diablos 13, San Diego Diablos, Diablos 13 (DBS, SSDBS, DX3)
Originally started by Sol Valle Diablos (SVD, SV DBS) transplants. SVD is a gang in LA(Sun Valley, San Fernando Valley area). Some heads started it up with locals in the San Ysidro neighborhood in the mid-80's. There hood is near the South Vista Lane and Averil Road area. They used to kick up a lot of dust in the late 80's and early 90's, but they are real quiet now.
I think thet pretty much beef with all gangs in the South Bay and South Side. Dairy Mart Locos are to the west of them (West of Dairy Mart Rd), Iris Ave 13 are to the north (n of 905), Del Sol are northeast of them (North of 905 and Beyer), and Sidro is to the east of them (east of the trolley tracks that run next to Beyer/SVista and Smythe Ave). They beef with VCV now, since a few heads live in Chula Vista in the Hilltop and Naples area. I thought they went inactive until I started seeing DBS13 Hitups in Chula Vista.
When I was young, they used to just go by Diablos 13. They started going by SS Diablos in order to stop confusion with Escondido Varrio Diablos in North County.
They popped up around the time that a bunch of LA gangs were trying to set up shop in San Diego via transplants (late 80's-early 90's).
-Lynwood Young Croud-Chula Vista, click went by Young Crowd 13, shut down by Otay and VCV
-East Side Longos-Chula Vista, shut down by Otay
-North Hollywood Locos-Chula Vista, never caught on with locals
-Clarence Street Locos-South San Diego, went inactive (beefed heavily with VNestor and Imperial)
-Compton Varrio Tokers-Southeast San Diego, click goes by Southeast Tokers, in Memorial neighborhood, still active?
-Lynwood Mob-National City, click started out as South Side Mob, now know as National City Mob
Orphans 13-El Cajon, click goes by El Cajon Orphans
18th ST Shatto Park-San Marcos-shut down by Varrio San Marcos
Other SD gangs with LA Sureno roots
-Brown Pride Locos-Chula Vista,went by SS Brown Pride Locos, became inactive
-Compton Varrio 70-heads started up Lomita Village 70 with members of East Side Lomita
-Still Kicking Ass-Southeast San Diego, SKA was a grafitti crew in LA. The SKA click in San Diego starte up 32nd Street SKA 13, went inactive?
-Townsmen 13-El Cajon, click goes by El Cajon Townsmen, went inactive?
-East Los Tortilla Flats-Encinitas, click goes by encintas Flats
-South Los 13-San Marcos
-Carnales 13-Escondido
-Big Hazard-Pacific Beach neighborhood, click went by Mission Bay Hazard,went inactive
-Hollywood Magician's Club-Pacific Beach neighborhood, click went by Mission Bay Magician's Club
About East Side Longos.., there were a few of heads that tried to start that were Brandywine Locos hood is now. I guess this was before BWLS. Brandywine Locos popped up after ESL went inactive. The main head of the ESL click was stirring up too much drama in Chula Vista. He ended up getting caught slippin', and he was kidnapped in his own car. The Chula Vista Fire Department later found his car on fire, and when they put it out and popped the trunk, they found the homeboy burnt to a crisp. I guess somebody locked him up alive in the trunk before they set the car on fire. That's some cold shit! Soon aftet that, ESL was no more in Chula Vista. I guess BWLS was started by some other homies that did have a connection with the ESL guys.
-Compton Varrio Tokers -Southeast San Diego, click goes by Southeast Tokers, in Memorial neighborhood, still active?
"32ND TOKERS" few heads still around. Some Young Homies still claiming it. From what I was told, they were started off by CV ToKerS.
-Lynwood Mob-National City, click started out as South Side Mob, now know as National City Mob
NC MOB still making some noise from what I was told.
Orphans 13-El Cajon, click goes by El Cajon Orphans
El Cajon OPHS active, same as the Hoodlums, Dukes and Locos.
-Compton Varrio 70-heads started up Lomita Village 70 with members of East Side Lomita
Few heads will admit or even remember E'S "19'70s" Lomita.
-East Los Tortilla Flats-Encinitas, click goes by encintas Flats
^ ^ CHALE.. Encinita Flats are original from ENCINITAS. They go back in time. No affiliation to TxFlats from CV or East Los.
-South Los 13-San Marcos
SOXLOS are huge in SM from what I know. They take on all the SM Varrios like VSM, GxT and WolfPack
-Big Hazard-Pacific Beach neighborhood, click went by Mission Bay Hazard, went inactive
-Hollywood Magician's Club-Pacific Beach neighborhood, click went by Mission Bay Magician's Club
^ ^ Refer to Mission Bay Varrio History
Now that's what I am talking about! Good info going on! Thank you for the 411 on SS Diablos. If you google South Los on the North County Times website, you'll find complete information on how South Los in SM was started. It gives complete accounts on the familia too. Also, use the search box and type in "gangs", and the North County Times did a complete Biopic on the Varrios in North County, defunct, active, dormant, etc. Check it out.
LoneWolf i noticed a couple years back you asked on the Streetgangs forum if there were any hoods or varrios in Allied Gardens. i was like hahahaha wtf!!! cuz im pretty sure you asked at about the same time that you would see KN and AG crossing each other out in Allied Gardens. im pretty sure i knew who the kids were it was some freshmen and sophmore kids that went to PHHS who just repped their neighborhood super hard and shit. if you go to PH you can always catch the underclassmen reppin and sometimes hittin up their neighborhoods[SC-San Carlos DC-Del Cerro AG-Allied Gardens] the AG kids didnt really know what KN was they were just getting into graffiti haha this is some funny shit
Here is an article I found in the San Diego Historical Society Registry regarding Lomas. It is from the San Diego Tribune (pre-U/T merger) in 1981. By the way, go to the San Diego Historical Society and you can a vast supply of information in regarding to numerous Varrio's in SD, as well as neighborhoods you fools never even heard of such as Helix Heights in SESD (yes, it is not a typo, there used to be a Varrio in SESD called Helix Heights! Look it up!)
Enjoy the article homeboys:
July 26, 1981, San Diego Union, B-1. San Diego fighting losing battle against Golden Hill graffiti, by Ed Jahn.
The gang graffiti war goes on but the City of San Diego’s battle for the Golden Hill section of Balboa Park is over.
For three months last year the city fought to keep the restroom in that southeast corner of Balboa Park free of youth-gang insignia.
It was a test case that failed. Every morning a crew gathered at the restroom and began painting out the spray-painted titles, names and initials.
But when they returned the next day, the exterior walls again would be covered with the stylized writing.
Those results mirror efforts elsewhere in the city, but what are eyesores to the general public are definitive footnotes to others on the changing strengths and boundaries of street gangs.
Youths who lounged near the painted-and-repainted park restroom, which is circled by Golden Hill Drive didn’t readily admit to being the graffiti culprits. They did, however, tell city workers their efforts were futile.
"After three months we had to give up," said Jim Slade, building maintenance supervisor. "They were getting back to the restroom before the paint was dry."
A citizens’ group in the area then took up the challenge. For a whole those residents painted out the markings twice a week. Now they obliterate the markings only occasionally.
The city continues its endless efforts to rid overpasses, street signs, pubic buildings, sidewalks, and retaining walls of the markings, some of which are crossed out and written over numerous times by gang members themselves.
A two-person team equipped with a high-pressure washing device on the back of a truck travels around the city four-days a week trying to eliminate the marks with a chemical solution, Slade said.
The city also is looking for a type of paint that would leave a surface unsuitable for aerosol sprays. Unfortunately, Slade said the anti-graffiti paint now on the market has a high-gloss surface which makes it extremely difficult to paint over for normal upkeep. No satisfactory product has been found.
The yearly cost to the city for the project now is more than $25,000, he estimated. Graffiti appears to be holding its own, if not spreading.
Gang members say both the city and the citizens’ groups misread the markings. They aren’t simply idle scribblings, they say. Instead, the graffiti is an important part of territorial imperative.
And the Barrio Lomas gang is the reason the graffiti stayed up on the Golden Hill restroom, gang members say.
Frank Tafoya, 21, is still a member of the Barrio Sherman gang. He also is directing his energies toward uniting several gangs in and around his barrio to work for community needs.
Gangs organize partly for self-protection, they contend. Mostly though they form out of boredom, unemployment, frustration and a youthful sense of machismo. And much gang activity includes some kind of criminal behavior, Taylor and the police agree.
Since the area and the recreation center in the neighborhood of Golden Hill are located on hills, the gang members who organized there combined "barrio," meaning district, with "lomas," the Spanish work for hills. So they call themselves the Barrio Lomas gang.
"They haven’t got many guys, but they are trying to build a reputation," said Tafoya. "If they don’t keep their name up in the park, they lose reputation. If they let someone else come in and put up their names over theirs, they ain’t ‘bad’ anymore."
Since both the Shermans and the Logan Heights Luckies are located near the park, these gangs feel it necessary to paint their gang graffiti on the restroom to prevent the Lomas gang from getting too bold, Tafoya said.
Gang wall markings delineate the boundaries within each barrio. Sometimes the boundaries are strict, as along parts of Logan Avenue, where one gang claims the north side of the street and another the south.
Gang graffiti is common around gang hangouts, heavily traveled intersections and barrio boundaries, Tafoya pointed out.
He gave the seemingly meaningless phrase, "b SM R 1 X3" as an example.
Tafoya explained that it is the Sherman logo, with SH standing for Sherman. If the writer has time and space that work would be spelled out.
The lower case "b" preceding the name means barrio. The "R" at the right of the marking can stand for the Spanish word "regla," meaning rule or ruler. Others interpret it as "rifa," a slang term meaning that any writer who added further insults would find those insults directed back to himself.
The number 1 might be included to signify the gang is first among all gangs. Often times the wall painter will add the "X3" at the bottom to stand for "crazy" or "loco." A gang member so tough he will attack any intruder is considered crazy, a term of pride.
Thus, Tafoya said the gang could be deciphered as "The Shermans rule the barrio because they are the craziest (meanest)."
Tafoya carries a constant reminder of the Shermans on his right arm. It’s a hand-made tattoo of the gang insignia with a forefinger extended to indicate they are number one. It’s an embarrassment to him now, he admits.
The wall insignias can become even more specific. Since the Shermans hang out at 20th and K, they sometimes put Roman numbers XX (20) - or "veinte," the Spanish word for 20 --- to show which street they are on. The Logan Heights Luckies are on 26th Street and their markings now have XXVI, the Romans numerals for 26, he said.
The graffiti provides the police with information about activity among the estimated 35 gangs and their 2,800 members, according to Sgt. Bill Campbell, supervisor of the department’s 10-man gang detail.
"Sixty percent of our responsibility is keeping information on gang members," he said. Most of the gang members put their names, nicknames or initials on the graffiti, giving the police a roster of who is involved in which gang, he pointed out.
"If we see a lot of them X-ed out, we know there’s an impending feud," Campbell said. "Gang members usually don’t snitch so it’s one way we have to get information."
Occasionally another gang will blot out a rival gang’s insignia. That isn’t grounds for a rumble unless the second gang identifies itself with the graffiti, Tafoya said.
"Usually the other gang won’t put their names above something they crossed out unless the want something to happen," he said. "There’s always something behind that like a fight or a girl or a problem.
"A gang member thinks it’s going to give him a bad reputation if people see his name crossed out, so he’ll get even."
Tafoya said he resents it when all street people are accused of killings, robberies or vandalism actually committed by a small number of gang members.
"They think that just because you wear baggy pants, loose shirt, have a white T-shirt and have short hair and tattoos, you are bad," he said. "Most of us aren’t bad, but people think we’re from outer space."
Campbell was reluctant to talk about the gangs by name since he feels it only serves to enhance their notoriety.
"It’s difficult," the officer said. "We need to tell the public about what’s going on but we don’t want to give gang members any publicity.
"What they should be reading about is gang members who go sent up for long terms."
Fortunately, gang members seem to respect art, creativity and their native heritage, Tafoya said. Popular hangouts in the barrios, such as markets that once were covered with scribblings now are being whitewashed by some gang members.
"We’re trying to paint murals now," Tafoya said. "We’re trying to give the younger kids some pride and a feeling that things can be different."
Varrio Helix AKA: Varrio Helix Heights (VH, VHX, VHXHTS)
Used to be in the Mount Hope district, just west of Varrio Market territory. They went inactive in the 1970's (i think). Varrio Market took that area from them.
One of my homies was from Calle 26 Luckies (LH LKS, LH C26LKS).
Here's some other hoods that used to be around (I'm sure I'm relisting some that have been on here already ). I'm sure that I'm missing some. Post up more!
Mexican:
-Shelltown 36th Street (ST36) 1970's
-Shelltown Delta Boys (STDBS) 1970's
-Logan 32nd Street (LH32)1980's
-Sherman 17th Street (SM17) 1960's/70's
-Sherman 29th Street (SM29) 1970's
-Lomas 27th Street (LM27) 1980's
-East Side Lomita (ESL) 1960's/1970's (truned into LV70's)
-Linda Vista Tecolotes AKA: Knightowls (LVKO, LVTCS), 1960's/70's
-132 Dead Ends (132DE, 1970's (Done here before)
-West Side Claras (WSC) 1970's/80's
-Chula Vista Boys (CVBS) 1950's/60's (turned into VCV)
-VCV K Street Boys 1970's/80's
-Chula Vista Bishop Boys (CVBB) 1980's
-Brandywine Playboyz (BW PBZ) Chula Vista 1990's (original clicka of Brandywine Locos)
-Otay Locos 1970's (turned into VLO?)
-Otay Montgomery Street Locos 1980's/90's (VLO MTG, VLO MSLS)
-Otay Yatos-1950's-1970's (YTS, OYTS)
-West Side Locos Sea Vale Street (WSLS SVST, WSLS SV) late 1990's
-South Side Criminals(SSC)-Chula Vista 1990's)
-Latinos Unidos (LU)-Chula Vista 1990's (some homies went on to head SE LKS click in the South Bay)
-South Bay 13 Tiny Locos, Chula Vista, 1990's
-Rasta Boys (RBS), Chula Vista 1980's
-National City Alley Boys (NCAB, NCABS), 1970's/80's (Acre Boys use ABS now)
-National City Norton Avenue Boys, 1960's/70's (NCNAB, NABS)
-National City Yesca Boys (NCYBS), 1970's/80's
-National City 3rd Street late 1990's
-Division Street Locos (DSL) 1990's
-East Side Landis, City Heights 1990's
-Darnall Locos (DLS) Redwood Village area, 1990's
-East Side 27th Street Locos, North Park 1990's
-Varrio Chollas (VC), Chollas Heights district, 1980's/90's
-Naraja Street (NRJ) 1980's/90's in Valencia Park
-Hemlock Street (HML)-Mountain View 1990's (Shut down by Shell town 38th)
-Encanto 13 (ENC13)..still around? 1980's
-Del Sol Sun City Locos (DS SCLS, DSSC)1980's
-Nestor 13 (NST13)1980's/early 90's (turned in Nestor 19th Street?)
-Calle Mole Locos (CML) El Cajon, 1970's/80's
-Lemon Grove Rifa (LGR) 1970's/80's (first set of VLG?)
-Esco Boys Town, AKA: Esco Town Locos (EBT, ETLS)-1980's
Multiethnic:
-National City Stoners (NCS)1980's
-North Park Stoners (NPS), 1970's/80's
-Castle Park Mob (CPMob), Chula Vista 1980's/90's)
-Connoley Boys (CBS) Chula Vista 1970's/80's
Black gangs:
Lincoln Park Crips-1970's, died off when Lincoln Park became dominated by Bloods (they did not turn into LPBloods like many people think, they went inactive)
-Fruit Town Gang, Encanto (named from old lemon tree groves that used to be in Encanto)1960's
-Central City Gang and Gangsta Playa, Mountain Veiw, (Became 59Brims when LA hoodsters came down)1960's/70's
-Hill City Gang, Emeral Hills 1960's/70's
-East Side Hang Gang, Skyline 1960's/70's
-West Side Get Downs/West Side Hustlers, Logan 1960's/70's (turned into West Coast Crips)
-Dodge City 1960's/70's
-Accee Ducees 1960's/70's
-Imperial Knights 1960's/70's
-Buisness Men (from LA) 1960's/70's
-LTD (from LA?) 1960's/70's
-Black Towers 1960's/70's
-Grayhound gang 1960's/70's
-Soul Agents 1960's/70's
-K Street Mob (KMob), Chula Vista, 1980's/90's
-26th Street Blood, National City
Samoan
-Fob Mob-Lincoln Park/National City 1980's
White
-Death Wish Kids (DWK), La Mesa, 1980's...considered wanna bes by many though
-Tuna Boys (TBS), Point Loma 1990's
I'm not sure, but I think that Red Steps used to beef with 26ST Luckies. For a while in the early 80's, the Logan gangs would beef with each other. I think Red Steps shut 26ST LKS down. Some older 30TA vato told me about this. He's around 45. He said that the first gang was just Varrio Logan, then the Red Steps came around. Then 30th came around, and they beefed with Red Steps for a while, until they set boundries up. He said 26 LKS came around in the early 80's, and was shut down by RS since they were in the RS territory (26th and National). 32nd wwas supposed to have come around in the early 80's too, but they were shut down by 30th, since they were in 30th territory (32nd and Ocean View). 33rd came along sometimes in the 80's too (?), and I guess they were given permission by 30th and RS to start up on the east side of Logan. I know now that RS, 30th, and 33rd all get along.
Are these territories right? That vato wasn't to clear on the modern territories. He was active in the Red Steps day, right around when 30TA came along.
Red Steps-Barrio Logan to 28th Street
LH30-28th to 32nd
LH33-32 to HWY 15?
It's funny how some clicks of the same neighborhoods get into beefs . When i was young, Gamma and 38th had some beefs with each other, and now they are united. I also remeber some OTNC beefs between the IBS and OBS. Supposedly when Otay RBLS came up, they beefed with VLO, until they clicked up with them.
I heard that for a short time the recent VCV clicks were beefin with each other (GLS and SBLS vs. GST and NBLS). Now supposedly its the Del Sol clicks beefin with each other now.
Also, what is the deal with Wicked Klowns? They claim 32nd and Oceanview (WK32OV). Are they Logan confederates? I am assuming that Logan gave them permission to claim that area.
And is Southeast San Diego Locos the same gang as Southeast Lokos? SELKS hood is Lincoln Park and Valencia Park. Where neighborhood is SESDLS from?
What are the all time #1 beefs with varrios? The all time #1 enemies of varrios?
I say #1 rivalries are:
VCV vs. Otay
Del Sol vs. Sidro
Imperial vs. Nestor
OTNC vs. ST Gamma Boys
Logan vs. Sherman
Paradise Hills LS vs. Acre Boys
Encanto vs. Lomita Village
Linda Vista vs. Mission Bay LS
Wop Town vs. OTSD
Center Street vs. Varrio Posole
Vista Homeboys vs. VSM
secondary rivaries?:
VCV vs. OTNC
VCV vs West Side LS
Otay vs. Del Sol
Otay vs. Sidro
Shelltown 38th vs. Logan
Sherman vs. Market Street LS
Sherman vs. Lomas
Encanto vs. Southeast Lokos
Linda Vista vs. Varrio Clairemont
or how about:
Logan vs. everybody!
or vESD vs everybody..
but yea i too am confused about the SE LKS and the SExSDLS. ive seen both in the same area. and whats SE LTS? i think i heard its the SE Lokotes? is that a clika, gang or is it some tagbangers?
&ive seen Wicked Klowns tagged so many different ways i dont know wtf they are or who theyr down with.
SExWK
LHxWK
WKSExSDX3LS
WKX3
WK32OV
SExOVxWKx32stLs
???
are they the new RK?
TO COMMENT BACK ABOUT THE SEXWKLS COMMENT...
WELL IM ONE OF THE SHOT CALLERS FROM WICKED KLOWNS
WE DONT WRITE LHXWK BECAUSE THATS NOT RIGHT ON THE STREETS..LOGAN IS ROLLING SOLO
WE SOMETIMES WRITE SEXWKLSD
BECAUSE WE REPRESENT WICKED KLOWNS BUT AS WELL SOUTH EAST SAN DIEGO...WE WROTE WK32OV BECAUSE WE KICK IT THERE 32ND OCEAN VIEW BOYS
WERE NOT HOOD HOPPERS AND WE DONT JOCK WERE OUR OWN SET WE PUT IT DOWN FOR SOUTH EAST !!
TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE THAT KNEW SKIPPY SHOW SOME RESPECT
SEXWKLS 32ND OVBYS REST IN PARADISE SKIPPY LOCA
THEY CALL ME GRIPS AND IM OUTS
HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR Q'S\
SHOUT OUTS
VAGO,LISXTO,SNASH,PANDXA,CUETE2,MOUSEY,ALTO,KLOWNY,SNOWKY,SXTRIKER,BLAIMSE,DOPEXS,MIMEXS,CHOLO,KNUCKLEXS,MANIAK,RAGE,PROPS,DAZE,WANDERS,LAFFS,DICE,DOWNER,TREMS(TREMENDXA),WORRIEXS,AND OR CORSE SKIPPY!!
AND TO THE REST !!!
Hey Grips...thankd for the post. So are u guys down with Logan, cause u post in their hood. Did you have to get permission from 30ta to claim 32 and OV? Do you guys calim 13ce, or are you guys taggers?.. Were not trying to diss...there's just a lot of confusion about SESD.
Like SE Lokos...
They started around 1991 as Southeast Sur 13 Lokos
(SE13LKS/SELKS). And they had like two clickas. One in SE (Licoln/Valencia), and one in Chula Vista. Now they just have one in SE, and they just go by Southeast Lokos. They used to be down with Shelltown in 1991 and 1992. But then they started beefin with ST around 1993. I also heard they used to kick it with Sherman in 1991-1992. Everyone says Lokos always backed up Logan ever since Lokos came up (even though they kicked it with Sherman and Shelltown in the beginning). I have heard that some gangsters that dropped out of Logan 30, Shelltown 38, Sherman, and VCV started SELKS up. I don't know if that is true, but I have heard that story twice now (one vato that told me was related to one of the old heads). With SELKS I used to see hit ups like SELTS, SELKS IMPBS, SELKS 54ST,
SELKS 54IMP, SELKS 45PARK. It seems like their main enemies are ST, OTNC, VCV, VELS, and ESD. It also seems like they are allied with Logan.
Now more recenty there are hoodsters claiming SESDLS. I see hitups like: SEKPSDLS, SECMSDLS, SESDLS 44ST, SESDLS 45ST, SESDLS46ST, SESDLTS, and SESDLS13. Are they all clickas of SE Lokos, or is SESDLS separate from SE Lokos. Are SESDLS gangster (13) or are they just taggers?
And now SS has a "version" of SESDLS.
I see SSDLS FK, SSDLS 69Boys, SSDLTS, SSDLS, SSDLS 18ST hit ups in South Side and Chula Vista. Are they taggers, or are they 13ce? Are they all clickas of SSD13, or are they separate from SSD13? I am assuming the "SSD 18ST" kicks it on Palm and 18th, or Coronado and 18th. I've seen Nestor 19ST hitups that diss 18th Street at South Bay Park.
Ay whats up with the colors in SD? What Mexican gangs were certain colors? Here's a few I can think of.
OTNC-Baby Blue (North Carolina gear)
Shelltown Gamma Boys-Black and Red
Shelltown 38th-Black and Grey
Wow Grips, A shot caller eh? So when did you get out of the 'Bay? And if you check the historia a few pages back, one of your own stated that you were NOT a set, and you were only a CLICK. Not gangsters, not taggers, a CLICK. But now, you are saying something different a few months later.
And with all due respect to that young girl, don't throw her name in the mix homeboy. I know Skippy's mom and for you busters to disrespect her memorial where she passed away by putting botellas of Miller Lite and hitting up your click and draping the scene with Blue Sur flags, you need to show some REAL respect. To call her an innocent victim and then to "gang" up the memorial was not only was a paradox, but tasteless and DISRESPECTFUL. True she did not bang, but her mother knows who she chilled with. And we all know what Varrio is responsible for this bullshit. So cut the chit chat and don't glorify Skippy's death like she was banging your so called "hood". Leave her name out of your mouth.
Anonymous said...
Ay whats up with the colors in SD? What Mexican gangs were certain colors? Here's a few I can think of.
OTNC-Baby Blue (North Carolina gear)
Shelltown Gamma Boys-Black and Red
Shelltown 38th-Black and Grey
6:39 PM
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ORALE ESE, WTF, YOU GOT PSYCHIC POWERS O QUE HOLMES? STUVE PENSANDO LO MISMO JUST LAST NITE. IN FACT I WAS THINKING THOSE EXACT SAME COLORS FOR SHELL TOWN CAUSE THIS LOCO EDUCATED ME IN ON THEM. THE VATO ALSO SHOWED ME THE HAND SIGNS FOR LOGAN 30TA AND RS + NC & FEW MORE. SURE ENUFF OTNC USES THE BABY BLUE AND IT APPEARS THAT LOGAN RS USED THE RED/BURGUNDY FROM WAY BACK.. IN REGARDS TO OTROS VARRIOS, WELL YOU ALL KNOW I'M NOT FROM SAN DIEGO, SO I JUST LISTEN, WACHO AND TRY TO LEARN. BUT SOMEONE SAID TO ME THAT DEL SOL USED THE AMARILLO COLOR WAY BACK, GO FIGURE QUE NO.. ANYWAYS, DEL SOL A FAR AS I WAS TOLD WAS NEVER PART OF V-OTAY 13. TRUE ENOUGH THAT THE DEL SOL (BARRIO) COMMUNITY GOES WAY BACK EVEN BEFORE THE AREA WAS NAMED "OTAY MESA". FILIPINOS BECAME THE BIG NUMBERS BACK IN THE LATER SIXTIES AND INTO THE 70s. BUT BY THE MID-70s THE ARE POPPED BACK UP AS PREDOMINANT CHICANO-MEXICANO.. THE DEL SOL VARRIO GOES BACK TO THE SAME ERA IN WHICH THE VILLA LOCOS FROM SIDRO SPRUNG UP. THEY'RE BOTH FROM THE VERY EARLY 70s AS FAR AS I WAS TOLD, BUT HEY, WHAT DO I KNOW, RIGHT? WHAT I DID CHECK OUT AND TRIP OUT ON 'CAUSE I DO LIVE 'ROUND IN THESE PARTS, IS THE FACT THAT DEL SOL ITSELF IS WAY TOO FAR TO HAVE EVER BEEN A PART OF OTAY 13. THAT'S JUST TOO MUCH DISTANCE IN-BETWEEN. IF DS WAS TRULY EVER A PART OF O13, THEN CHINGAO HOLMES, THAT OTAY 13 WAS ONE HUGE CHUNK OF TERRENO.
ON ANOTHER NOTE.. IN REGARDS TO FCW THE FOOR CORNERS OF THE WORLD, THAT WAS SOME GOOD CLECHA HOLMES.
THIS IS HOW I'M UNDERSTANDING IT..
THE "FOUR CORNERS OF THE WORLD" WAS THE "GANG" NAME FOR THE ONES IN THE SOUTH BAY.
BUT "THE FOUR CORNERS OF DEATH" IS THE LOCALITY OVER BY IMPERIAL AND EUCLID, QUE NO?
LW yea the 4 corners of death is euclid/imperial. but im interested in when it was nicknamed that. it used to be the corners where the Lincoln Park Bloods the NeighborHood Crips O'Farrel Park Bankstas and Emerald Hills Blood Gang shared a border. that must have been a long time ago cuz now Emerald has retreated way back into its own neighborhood, and Lincoln is extended a little more east. so i guess its 3 Lincoln corners and a NHC corner. in fact i might even say that Lincoln pretty much runs 4 Corners and NHCs are like a half block north.
&isnt Sherman's color brown?
and by the way, for those who are wondering about SKA 32nd street x3, you can see the homie Flaco from SKA on the www.tribal.com website. He is a tattoo artist for Midway tattooo and you can see a big SKA stamp on the side of his head, and he has 32 on his arms. They still claim 32, waaaaaaay before any other SE crew.
yea..FCW was the south bay gang..and Four Corners of death id the Imperial and Euclid intersection in SESD.
The funny thing about it..i saw a fresh FCW hit up in Chula Vista off of Third and Orange the other day. Maybe it's just some kid that just learned about them hittin it, or maybe their comming back? And about that area in CV that was a FCW zone..if you go in the storm channel north of that neighborhood (nigga hill, woodland park, whatever), you'll see some old FCW and West Coast Crip hit ups. Also a lot of old Brandywinde LS crossed out by Otay in there.
About the Otay and Del Sol connection...maybe some people are getting confused about the history since that Emero from Del Sol is always in the paper. His name is "Bat" Marquez. He was from Chula Vista. He grew up in the Otay area, but he ran with Del Sol. I don't know if he set hopped, or if he always ran with Del Sol. His brother is from Otay! Those OG's are in their late 40's or early 50's. Maybe DS and VLO weren't beefin back then. But i know they have been bitter enemies at least since I was young.
It reminds me of two brothers that I knew. The older brother was from Logan RS, and the younger one was from OTNC! The family lived in Logan, and their older son ran with Red Steps. The younger one was still way to young to bang. The parents divorced, and the older boy stayed with his mother in Logan. the father took the younger boy, and moved to NC. They younger boy ended up getting jumped into OTNC Gatos. The brothers always stayed close, and Logan gave a pass to the younger brother, and OTNC gave a pass to the older brother. So, everyone from Logan and OTNC ended up knowing both brothers, so neither would get jumped.
Ay Lone Wolf, don't worry about not being from Dago, and speaking on Dago topics. You could still school most of us on the scene here. Most kids nowdays don't even know their own hoods history anyways! They just wanna bang! I've learned a lot from your blog! It doesn't matter if it doesn't come straight from you, at least you are pooling up all this knowledge that you have learned, and passing it on to us.
And on Del Sol wearing yellow..I heard that too from somebody. And I also heard that Red Steps used to wear red too. I guess they quit wearing red when Gamma Boys came up (since Gamma wears red and black).
I guess it was in the 70's or 80's. Someone told me that Naranja Street used to were orange,..but i don't know if he was fucking with me.
I also heard that it was either Sherman or Lomas that used to whear green in the 70's/80's (I am almost sure it was Lomas).
I don't know if these colors are true, but I heard of them:
VCV-Blue (CVHS Spartan blue), black, and white
Otay and Sidro-Brown and Gray
Nestor-Blue
Imperial-Green and White
Encanto-tan
ESD-black and white
these colors were back in the 70's 80's, and the vato that told me kept saying "I think this hood wore this.....or maybe it was that other hood."
I think the only hoods now that still were colors are OTNC, ST38, STGBS.
The only LA hood that I know that where colors is Watts Varrio Grape (purple). But I bet you that LW can school us on LA hoods.
FUCK TRG...
THEY WILL (NEVER)RUN WITH THE HOMIES...
FUCK NIGGERS,FUCK CHINOS AND THE FUCK THE LAME RAZA THE RUNS WITH THEM...
PRIMERO MI RAZA...PURO SUR TRECE
VARRIO LINCOLN HEIGHTS GANG...VIVA LA RAZA
orale
Hey Lincoln Heights menso...they're talking about VCX3TRG..its a mexicano set that has nothing to do with the Cambodian TRG. Go back to LA forums if you want to talk that racist shit.
AqUi PaRa LHC ls EsE GrUmPy LoKoTe
SiEmPrE RiFaNdO Y Ke PTS SAludos al
LIL VAGO "IT SEEMS LIKE A MIGHTY LONG TIME"
STAY DOWN ALRATO
FCW's are retired but some are affiliatted w. IRIS AVENUE
* SOUTH SAN DIEGO *
Back in the days, IDM (Insane Diego Mobbers) clicked w/ FCW represented the INSANE FAMILY (originally from FCW)
Both were mixed gangs but as years passed - the "mixed" idea was not favored in jail,Subsequently, forcing these 2 gangs to obide by the "rules" set forth by politics.
SADK was the major tagging/Graffiti crew to ever represent/destroy the south.
og's like (THE ORIGINAL) WYSE/LYER/SKENone/SHOK/WEBS/XAKE/JOKES/SONER/FLUE/LEVEL/VIRUS/ and so forth helped destroy the southside.
SDV - STONED DAILY VANDALS. SEVEN DEADLY VENOMS.
I agree - keep the graff crews out of these discussions (please)
SDV / HB / SADK /
graff crews w/ no affiliations to gangs/neighnorhoods.
with all due respect - thanks
peace to the ones that posted about
FCW / IDM
* INSANE FAMILY SSD *
YOGGIE IDM
SICC LOKO FCW
CRICKET IRIS
MEEMO IRIS
GRUMPY IRIS
FLAKO SKA 32nd
does the sickest lettering (calligraffiti) in SD.
why? because he's an og from SADK
all the SE LKS BOYS that lived in CHULA VISTA were/are some of the downest muthafuckas I chilled with. period!
MORENO
SLEEPY
RASCAL
CHIKO
LONELY
BALA
TEMPER
HAPPY
TRIPPS
WISH
and anyone I may have left out.
YOGGSTER IDM *INSANE FAMILY*
waddup
CRICKET IRIS
GRUMPY IRIS
MEEMO IRIS
HAPPY IRIS
SICC FCW
STOMPER FCW
CHENDO FCW
FUCK TRG
FUCK ALL CHINOS AND NIGGERS...
PURO SUR
VARRIO LINCOLN HEIGHTS GANG
PRIMERO MI RAZA...
FUCK STINKIN' HEIGHTS LXil HXynas. Stay in East Los!!! No one care about your racist shit on this forum you dumbshit. Your varrio is the weakest hood in East Los anyways. Varrio LXil HXynas is full of lames.
fuck yea..those SELKS from CV were down for theirs. some of the downest vatos that were around in the 90's. I remember they used to chill around that 711 on Naples and Hilltop..way back when there was that burned out building there. that spot used to be all fucked up.
are any of those homies around anymore? is that dead in CV now?
Hey to the homeboy that wrote this:
"Anyone know who killed the richard ateyede at Sunny's Market this year? There was a vigil for the victim and OTNC left much respect for the decedent. Vario Chula Vista came and crossed out and destroyed a memorial. Does VCV have the guts to take responsibility or are they just bunch of chupa vergas?"
It's fucked up that any Southsider will diss another dead Southsider (even a rival), but I know for a fact that OTNC has done the same to Gamma Boy memorials, VCV memorials, and Logan Memorials. I got repspect for Pueblo Viejo, but to expect that a homies memorial from OTNC will not get trashed in a rivals varrio is silly. Especially a memorial that is was full of OTNC placas, and that said "Fuck Chupa Verga." Plus VCV did take responsibility. I saw that memorial after it was trashed...and VCV placas were all over the place.
I'm sick of all this "rest in piss" bullshit. Our native ancestors had mad repect for the dead...even rival dead warriors. And now we have teenageres, and twenty plus year old bangers that diss memorials and fallen sodiers of rivals. That's something a little bitch mocoso would do, not a true G. True G's understand the game, and its consequence. They don't act like bitches and diss dead rivals. It's a bitch move to diss a dead rival, beacause they are no longer around to defend themselves. It's time for all these little cholos to grow up, and stop dissing dead rivals. Let them lie where they are.
And to the homie from Otay capping on a cholo from CV for crying. I saw one of your homeboys get jumped by a couple of guys from Del Sol. They didn't even sock him up that bad, and his bitch ass cried like a little girl. They even stopped and laughed at him. They felt so sorry for his bitch ass that they let him go. The sad thing is, that the Otayero was around 18! And don't trip on what I said, I'm not trying to diss, cause I got family in VLO.
Rest in Peace Gizmo (Otay RLS)
Rest in Peace Stomper (NCLS)
Rest in Peace Troubles (VCV)
Rest in Peace Maldito and Manny Boy (OTNC)
Rest in Peace Lil Smokey (ST38)
Peace to all fallen SouthSiders.
SExLKS in chula vista - I cant say, I moved up to Temecula area.
I still go back home at least twice a month and chill w. the neighbors, but I cant say for sure.
I do miss those guys though.
RK WAS A CREW STARTED BY UFK TO DISS EAST SIDE THEY DECIDED TO BE A KLIK OF...?????
UFK,KN,ALS,TB, BAP,TNS,MGK,SEK,BAS,BKS,BWS, WERE ALL TAG BANGERS SOME WENT OUT AND GOT THAT 3CE BY DOIN TIME AND GETTIN THE BLESSIN FROM INSIDE THE PIN SOME DECIDED TO STAY TAGGERS N SOME JUST STOPPED PERIOD
IM A TAGGER BECAUSE I LOVE THE THRILL OF GOING OUT N BOMBIN THE FREEWAYS N SHIT
NOW FOR SUM TAGGIN CREWS OF SD STARTIN FROM THE SOUTH N HEADIN MY WAY UP AS FAR AS EASTSIDE SAN DIEGO AND ANY OTHER I REMEMBER
SBI(SOME WRITE LS AND SBI TAGGERS ARE TIJUAS ORIGINALS)
MDR
SAB(SAN YSIDRO)
SDVC
FH(PALM CITY)
RTS
FMK
FK(SSD)
TKO
MTK(NC SOME OTNC DONT RECOGNIZE THEM)
MTO
MCK
UKS
CTK(NC ORIGINAL NOT EASTSIDE)
TCK
TTEK
BWS(RELOCATE TO LOGAN AREA)
SR
FW
BKS
ALS(ASSOCIATED WITH LOGAN ANOTHER LOGAN SOLDIER)
BAS
BWS
UFK
TNS(TURNED 13)
KN
RK(TURNED KLICK)
MGK
BTS
BAP(TURNED 13)
BPC
OCPK(LA ORIGINALS)
UIS
TEW/2K
CTK(EASTSIDE)
UFC(EL CAJON AREA NOT SOUTHEAST'S 1992 UFK)
LDC
SFA
T2B/TTBBK
ATLK
MFB
TOTK
DTK
DAT
RDK
B3(OLD SCHOOL)
RLB
APS
SEK
NVS
CIA
TNT
OEK
AEK
SKA(TURNED 13)
ZCREW
BBH
NM
ONE
UGA(OLD SCHOOL)
BCX
GM
PBK
TVC
ATB
WST
GSR
DK
yea but DAT isnt really an active crew no more since the whole DAT vs MDR thing but i think a lot of them joined OCPK..
hey what gangs go to what highschools?
This might be way out of date...i went to highschool in the early 90's in the South bay, and can only tell you who was around then.
Keep in mind that most highschools have different homies from a lot of different varrios that attend. But there are usually some main sets.
Southwest High-Sidro,Nestor, SSDiablos, Varrio Iris, Clarence Street Locos (dead), FCW, IDM, S3P (dead)
Mar Vista High-Imperial 13
Montgomery-Del Sol,Palm City, FCW, IDM
Castle Park High-Otay,Brandywine Locos,South Side Criminals (dead),Sur Bay 13 Tiny Locos(dead), Castle Park mob (dead)
Chula Vista High-VCV, K Street Mob Bloods (dead)
Hilltop High-had a big mixture in the 90's...Southeast Lokos (SB Click-dead),Otay,VCV,OTNC,Paradise Hills Locos, Acre Boys, Imperial 13,Del Sol,Nestor,Clarence Street Locos (dead), Varrio Encanto, IDM
Sweetwater High-Mainly OTNC,South Side Mob, NC Locos, Samoan Bloods
Morse High-Skyline Piru, B Down Boys, Paradise Hills Locos,Varrio Encanto, Block Boys
Monte Vista High-Skyline Piru, Lomita 70's, Spring Valley Locos, Varrio Encanto, Lemon Grove Locos
Lincoln High-Lincoln Park Bloods, 5/9 Southside, Shelltown
Gompers-NH Crips, Varrio Market, Oriental Killer Boys, Emerald Hills Bloods
San Diego High School-Logan, Lomas, Sherman, WC Crips
I don't know about the rest back then...or how it is today. Hilltop was a chill school back then. There were a lot of rivals going there, but they wouldn't beef that much. It was motly SELKS, with one or two heads scattered here and there. It was a big time stoner school. Maybe that mota helped to keep that peace.
Then in the South Bay you had continuation schools like palomar High and Del Rey Adult Schools. Palomar High had heads from all over SE and SB dago, plus heads from LA. Del Rey was notorious for VCV and a lot of LA heads back then. There were a couple of rumbles between VCV and some LA homies that banded together (Gardena 13, Grape Varrio Watts, Big Hazard, Geraghty Lomas, 18th Street).
Oh yeah..and what up to Big Yogi from Insane Dago Mob. Good to see your still around brotha!!
About SE13LKS not being around in CV..all the homies are either locked up for a long time, or they fell off tha face of the earth. There is no 13LKS in CV anymore, but I did see one of the old heads a while ago. He's chill..he still reps 13LKS, but he is beyond that banging shit. I guess you could say he's retired.
And to u youngstes claiming SE13LKS in SE now...the old heads from Chula Vista put you to shame. Back then, it was straight gangsta style! Now all you hoodrats do is tag and run ya gums! Peace to all the SE and SB hoodsters in Dago! Brown, Black, White, Red or Yellow!!!
What's up with these new bangers in the South Bay? HL Locos, MEK13, and SS Born Too Crazy (SS BTC). HL used to be taggers (High Life)..now they hit up "Hell Lane Locos," and "45 Locos." Is that shit legit? What is MEK..Monkeys Eating Kake?? Naw really..what does MEK stand for...are they legit trece? Or just some wanna bes?
Some homie brought up ESSH. I remember that they used to beef with all neo nazis and racist skinheads. They used to beef with San Diego Boot Boys (SDBB)-A racist skinhead gang. The southbay also had skinheads back in the 80's and early 90's. In Chula Vista, there used to be SHARP Skins and Internationalists. Both were traditional skinheads (non-racist). They used to beef with some racist skinheads out of Bonita, Chula Vista, and Imperial Beach. I think the racist Skinheads in Chula Vista were the CV Boot Boys, and in IB it was the Imperial beach Peckerwoods. I can't remember the name of the Nazi skinhead gang that was in Bonita.
Hey Yogi from IDM...I know one of your homies from way back in the day. He's a little short dude, half native/half white (or maybe half mexican) that lived by you and the South Bay SEXLKS. He said that you might know him as Wako or Muppet. He had a cousin that went by Egor.
That little guy was a traditional Skinhead (non-racist) in highschool. He went to Hilltop High. He hung out with the Straight Edgers and punkers. He used to rep Dago Hardcore (DHC). Homie is only like 5 feet 2, and I saw him get sucker punched by a six foot nazi skinhead, he buckled but got right back up! He knocked the shit out of that Nazi with a prybar when he popped back up! That little dude used to hang out with cholos sometimes too. He says wut up to you and the SE Loko Boys!!!
SBI(SIKOS BOMBIN INSANE)(SOME WRITE LS AND SBI TAGGERS ARE TIJUAS ORIGINALS)
MDR(ME DAS RISA, ALSO HH HAHA)
SAB(SHOOTIN ALL BASTARDS)(SAN YSIDRO)
SDVC(SAN DIEGO VANDALS)
FH(FOREVER HIGH)(EX-TAGGERS)(PALM CITY)
RTS(RUNNIN THE SHOW)
FMK(FOREVER MURDERIN KLOWNS)
FK(FUCK KLOWNS)(SSD)
TKO(TAKIN KLOWNS OUT)
MTK(MID TOWN KRIMINALS)(MEXICANS TAGGING KREW)(NC SOME OTNC DONT RECOGNIZE THEM)
MTO(MEXICANS TAKIN OVER)
MCK(MEXICANS CARRY KANS)
UKS(UNITED KINGDOMS)
CTK(CRAZY TAGGERS KREW)(NC ORIGINAL NOT EASTSIDE)
TCK(TAGGING CRAZY KREW)
TTEK(TIL THE END KREW)
BWS(RELOCATE TO LOGAN AREA)
SR(STILL RIDIN)
FW(FUCK WACK)
BKS(BOMIN KUMMIN STEALIN)
ALS(ASSOCIATED WITH LOGAN ANOTHER LOGAN SOLDIER)
BAS(BOMBIN AND SHOOTING)
BWS(BOMBIN WITH STILO)
UFK(UNFADEABLEKREW*US FOOLS KREW*UNITED FAMILY*UNFORGIVEN*USING FEMALES KONSTANTLY*USIN FULL KLIPS*US FUCKING KINGZ)
TNS(TAGGERS NEVER STOP)(TURNED 13)(TRUST NO SOUL*TAKIN NO SHIT*THE NITE SHIFT*50TA*50THST)
KN(KRIMINAL NATION*KALLE NARANJA*KLOWN NATION)
RK(RAT KILLERS*REAL KINGZ)(TURNED KLICK)
MGK(MY GANG KILLS)
BTS(BOMBIN THE STREETS)
BAP(BROWN AND PROUD)(TURNED 13)
BPC(BROWN PRIDE CREW)
OCPK(LA ORIGINALS)
UIS(UNDER INFLUENCES)
TEW/2K
CTK(EASTSIDE)
UFC(EL CAJON AREA NOT SOUTHEAST'S 1992 UFK)
LDC(LAST DAYZ CREW*LOS DIAS*LEAVIN DA CITY)
SFA(SAYING FUCK ALL)
T2B/TTBBK(TOP 2 BOTTOM*TOP TO BOTTOM BURNERS KREW)
ATLK
MFB
TOTK
DTK(DONT TRIP KREW)
DAT(DOWN ASS TAGGERS)
RDK(REAL DEAL KREW)
B3(OLD SCHOOL)
RLB
APS(AEROSOL PHYCOTIKS)
SEK(SOUTHEAST KINGS)
NVS(NOTORIUS VANDALS)
CIA
TNT(TAGGIN N TAKIN)
OEK(OWN EUCLID KREW)
AEK
SKA(TURNED 13)
ZCREW(ZOMBIE CREW)
BBH(BROS BEFORE HOES)
NM(NOTORIUS MENACES)
UNO(UNDER NO ONE)
UGA(OLD SCHOOL)
BCX(BURN CRUSH EXECUTE)
GM(GOING MANIAK)
PBK
TVC
ATB(ALL TRAIN BOMBIN)
WST(WESTSIDE TAGGERS)
GSR
DK(DESTROY KINGZ)
1302 LS (B. Mission Bay Locos)
5/9 Brims
73 LS (73rd Street Locos)
ABH (Always Blazin Herbs)
ABK (Alcoholics Brown Krew)
ABS (Acre Boys)
AD (Aerosol Destruction)
AEK (Avenue Euclid Klika, Always Enforcing Kaos, Another Evil Kreation, Above Every Krew)
AIB (Asian Insane Boys)
AIC (Artists In Crime, Always In Control)
AK (Aerosol Kids, Acid Kids)
AN LS (Aztec Nation Locos)
APS (Aerosol Psychos)
ATLK (Actively Taggin Lunatics Krew)
ATR (Asian Thug Riders)
ATS (Antigos)
AVL (Alpine Varrio Locos)
B.LVX3 (Barrio Linda Vista)
BAP (Brown and Proud)
BBH (Bros Before Hoes)
BBS (Block Boys)
BC (Beyond Crazy)
BCX (Burn Crush Execute)
BDB (Be Down Boys)
BLM (Bird Land Mob)
BNB (Bahala Na Barkada)
BNG (Bahala Na Gang)
BR (Bay Riders)
BSD (Bomin San Diego, Being So Destructive)
BSM (Barrio Sherman)
BTC (Bombin’ The City)
BWL, BWLS (BrandyWine Locos)
CAC (Chamone Ave. Crips)
CALS (Crazy Ass Locos)
CBR, CBLS, CLS (Carlsbad Locos)
CHB (Cant Hold Back)
CN (Cloud Nine)
CO (Crazy Ones)
CP (Causing Panic)
CPB (Chicano Park Boys)
CYS (Crazy Young Syndrome, Caught You Slipping)
DC (Don’t Care)
DFA (Down For Anything, Don’t Fuck Around)
DFC (Down For Crime)
DFM (Down For Mine)
DMLX3 (Dairy Mart Locos)
DNA (Daily New Artists, Diego Needs Aerosol)
DOA (Demons Of Art)
DSL (Division Street Locos)
DSX3 (Del SolX3)
DTK (Down To Kill)
DVS (Devious)
DYH (Dissn Yo Hood)
EBT (Escondido Boys Town)
ECHL (El Cajon Hood Lums)
EDM (East Daygo Mob)
EF (Encinitas Flats)
EG (Eden Gardens)
EGP (Easy Going Pinoys)
ELE∙VE∙X3 (LVX3 in spanish)
ENCX3 (Encanto HeightsX3)
ENCX3 (EncinitasX3)
ESDAX3 (East San Diego AztecsX3)
ESDX3 (East Side DiegoX3)
ESP (East Side Piru aka Skyline Piru)
ES∙NCLS (East Side National City Locos)
EV (Everlasting Vandals, Extremely Vicious)
EVD (Esco Viejo Diablos)
FBI (Forever Being Insane, Fuck Being Indicted)
FBK (Forever Boming Krew, Familia Bien Kabrona)
FBLS, vFLS (Varrio Fallbrook Locos)
FH (Familia Hispana) or PCFH (Palm City From Hell)
FK (Forever Kings, Freeway Killers)
FMK (Fumando Mota Krew, Forever Murder Klowns)
FO (Fuck Off, Faded Off Chronic)
FSB/FSBK (Freestyle Bombers)
FSI (Feeling So Irie)
FTS (Fuck The System)
FWR (Fuck What’s Right)
GBS (Gamma Boys)
GDP X3 (Get Down PosseX3)
GI (Gone Insane, Get Irie, Graffiti's Illest)
GLS (Grande Locos)
GMK (Gas Mask Killas)
Gst (G Street)
HB (Hell Bound)
HBG (Holy Blood Gang)
HEM (Hecho En Mexico)
HK (Hispanic Klan)
HML (Hemlock)
IBS (Insane Boys)
ICKX3 (Insane Criminal Klicka)
IDM (Insane Diego Mob)
IK (Insane Kings, Irie Kings)
IMPX3 (ImperialX3)
IPT (Insane Pinoy Tribe)
ISR (Its So Real)
JMB (Juice ‘em Boys)
JRSX3 (Juniors X3)
JVC (Junior Vandal Crew)
KBP (Kick Back Posse, Krazy Bombing Posse)
KDK (Kuduku)
KI (Killer Instinct)
KLB (Kalaban)
KOE (Knock Out Everytime)
KOS (Kings Of Style, Knockin Out Suckers)
KP (Krazy Payasos)
KTC (Killin The City, Killin The Competition)
KTK (Kill The Kops, Kausing Total Kaos, Kiss These Knuts)
KVR (Kreating Vandalized Ruins)
LCG (Lil Crip Gang)
LGS (Little Gangsters)
LH 30/33 (Logan Heights 30th, 33rd street)
LHC (Logan Heights Click)
LH∙RS X3 (Logan Heights Red StepsX3)
LHX3 (Logan HeightsX3)
LM26 (LOMAS 26th street) or GHX3 (Golden HillX3)
LP (Lincoln Park)
LPR (Las Palmas)
LSC/LSCK (L Street Click)
LVC (Linda Vista Crip)
LW (Lyrical Writers)
LWI (Living With Insanity)
MBK (Martin Block Krew)
MBX3 (Mission Bay X3)
MC (Mission Click)
MC aka MAD Crew (Masters At Destruction)
MDR (My Daily Routine, Making Dreams Reality, More Damage Regardless)
MFB (Midnight Freight Bombers, Mexicans Fucking Bitches, My Fat Balls)
NBLS (Nutty Block Locos)
NC MOBX3 (National City MobX3)
NFR (No Fucking Respect, No Fucking Remorse)
NHS (No Half Steppin’)
NK (Notorious Kings)
NM (No Mercy, Nasty Minds)
NR (No Remorse)
NSH (National Street Habit, Non Stop Harassment)
NST19 (Nestor 19th Street)
NVS (Notorious Vandal System)
OAC (On Acid Crew, Once Again Crew)
OBK (Original Blood Krew)
OBS 47,50 (Oriental Boys Soldiers 47,50 St)
OKB (Oriental Killer Boys)
OL (Out Laws, Only Lunatics, Otros Locos)
OPLS (Oak Park Locos)
OSA (One Step Ahead)
OSK (Old School Kings)
OTK (Out To Kill)
OTNC (Old Town National City)
OTSDX3 (Old Town San DiegoX3)
OX3 (Otay X3)
PALS (Palm Avenue Locos)
PHX3 (Paradise HillsX3)
PLC (Pre-Lady Clik)
PPLS (Pocos Pero Locos)
PPX3 (Presidio ParkX3)
PSL, PZL, vPL (Varrio Posole)
PVC (Puro Varrio Campo)
PWP (Pecker Wood Posse)
RBLS (Riverbottom Locos)
RC-LS (Ruff City) or SSR (South Side Roughnecks)
RCA (Real Crime Artists)
RDK (Real Daygo Kings, Riskin Detainment, Reckin Daygo Kounty)
REK (Real Evil Klowns)
RIA (Risking It All)
RK (Rat Killas)
RLB (Restless Bombers)
RLS (Rasta Locos)
RM (Ruthless Mexicans)
RP (Ruthless Posse)
RPK (Ruthless Posse Krew)
RTS ( Runnin' The Show, Rocking The Suckers, Racking The Spraycans)
RTS (Ruff Tuff Somalis)
SAD (Seek And Destroy, Stoned And Drunk, Strapped And Dangerous)
SBA (Seduced By Aerosol)
SBLS (South Bay Locos)
SBX3 (South BayX3)
SDK (Still Dropping Klowns)
SDV/SDVK, SDVC (San Diego Vandal Crew)
SEK (South East Kings, Smokin Every Krew)
SEX3 (South EastX3)
SExSD (South East San Diego)
SKAX3 (Still Kicking AssX3)
SM (Varrio San Marcos)
SM 20 (Sherman 20th street)
SM 27(Sherman 27th street)
SM 38 (Sherman 30th street)
SOL (Somali Out Laws)
SPC (Syko Pathic Criminals)
SSC (South Side Criminals)
SSI (State Side Islanders)
SSK (Sick of Society Kings)
SSV (South Side Vista)
SS∙SD (South Side∙San Diego)
STR, ST38 (Shell Town 38th street)
STS (Satanas)
SVL (Spring Valley Locos)
SY (San Ysidro) aka SIDRO
TAC (The Alcoholic Club)
TAGS (Toys Always Get Slashed)
TB (The Block)
TCS (Twenty Center Street) or CSG (Center Street Gang)
TEW/2K (The Evil Within Krew, True Evil Warriors Krew)
TH (Thunder Hills)
TKO (The Krazy Ones, Trust Know One)
TMK (The Mexican Klan, Too Much Kaos, Trouble Makin Kids, Too Much Klownin)
TNS (Takin' No Shit, Trust No Soul)
TOC (Tiny Oriental Crips)
TRC (Top Ranking City, That Roots Child)
TRG (Tiny Rascal Gang )
TTBB (Time To Break Boundaries)
TV/ TVC (True Vandal Crew, The Vicious Cycle)
UBS (Unique Boys)
UC (Under Cover, Un Controllable)
UF/UFK (Un Fadeable Krew, Us Fools Krew)
UNO (Under No One, Unlike No Other)
UWK (Under World Kings)
V.LVX3 (Varrio Linda Vista)
VCG (Valley Centro Gang)
VCT (Varrio Campo Trece)
VCVX3 (Varrio Chula Vista)
VCX3 (Varrio Chollas X3)
VCX3, vCLMT X3 (Varrio Clairemont X3)
VDK (Van Dyke Krew)
VEL (Varrio Encanto Locos)
VH (Vista Homies) or VHB (Vista Homeboys)
VIA (Varrio Iris Avenue)
VLGX3 (Varrio Lemon Grove X3)
VLO (Varrio Locos Otay)
VM, VML (Varrio Mesa Locos)
VMS (Varrio Market Street)
VP (Varrio Posole, LS)
VPL (Varrio Peñasquitos Locos)
VST (Varrio Sureño Town) or VSL (Varrio Sureño Locos)
WBG (Winona Blood Gang)
WE (Wicked Enemies)
WH (Weed Heads)
WK (Wicked Klowns)
WOS (Wicked Oceanside Sureños)
WPI (We Puff Indo, We Plead Insanity)
WSC (West Side Crips)
WSG (West Side Gang)
WSK (West Side Kings)
WSLSX3 (West Side Locos X3)
WSxFK (West Side Fuck Klowns)
WS∙NC (West Side National City)
WT∙APK X3 (Wop Town Amici Park X3)
WT∙KBS X3 (Wop Town Krazy Boys X3)
YPN (Your Property Next)
Z (Zoroe, Zany, Zoo)
Most of those taggers change there names anyways...That shit is too confusing. Tagbangers trip me out. Get down for a real varrio. Not for a wall and some initials.
anyone else know what gangs/klikas/crews went or go to what schools? im sure SDHS Hoover and Lincoln have a much longer list than posted above..
"-South Los 13-San Marcos
SOXLOS are huge in SM from what I know. They take on all the SM Varrios like VSM, GxT and WolfPack"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
SERIO? no disrespect but, where the f*** did you hear that bs?
homie you are way off, south-los hood is small in San Marcos,
VSM and GxT are the same thing, its,
VARRIO SAN MARCOS GHOST TOWN LOCOS X3. all together,and we cliqued up with WolfPack, wich is now
SAN MARCOS WOLFPACK LOCOS X3
varrio south-los 13 baby locos and tiny locos are a weak ass varrio,
its bordered at the north by Autumn Dr.,
knoll rd. at the west,
los vallesitos blv. and San Marcos blv. to the south and Pico Ave. at the east, that sH*t is a small area, compared to VARRIO SAN MARCOS's area, witch is basically the whole city of San Marcos.
but dont get me wrong they're deep as fuck, but still they get smashed by VARRIO SAN MARCOS GHOSTxTOWN, back in the day south-los used to control the Richmar ave, but WolfPack and GhostTown took over that area, south-los are at their weakest point, if it wasn't for the new gang injunction on VARRIO SAN MARCOS, shoelace would of been gone by now. that fu**n injunction got allot of the homies locked up.
now south-los also has beef with esco viejo diablos. and everyone up here in UPPER COUNTY, knows that southlos is a lame varrio, even party krews stomp on them. shit is looking sad for the shoelace gang.
"East Side San Marcos Brown Pride Locos (MA)" what kinda sh*t is that, those fools are even weaker than south-los, fuck i dont even know where those fools post it at, we erased those fools from the map back in day and we can do it again.
feel free to check this pagina:
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Sorry you seem to be so "confused" about tagbangers. However, if you failed to read the historia on previous paginas, you would see that the original Tagger Crews were forced to tow the line and GET DOWN AS A VARRIO. That is why SKA is SE Calle Treinta Dos, AEK is now VARRIO ESSD AVENIDA EUCLID, and SEK is LOGAN. If you notice the SE Wicked Klownz klick is now trying to adapt the same formula, now calling themselves the "32/Oceanview" boyz. Ditto goes for 73LS, which have adapted the "Mountain View" handle to signify demographic reference, hence a "VARRIO". I was in the tinker when the edict was enforced, on the 3 yard in RJD. Actually before San Diego Crews had to tow the line, the first crews to become SUR 13 blessed were from LA/IE/LBC area. I remember TFK, which originally stood for "THE FONTANA KINGS" out in the Inland Empire got stamped in the pinta and then went by South Side The Fontana Kriminales gang. Same thing with KAM in L.A. which was and still stands for Krazy Ass Mexicans. This crew went 13 and is now Compton Varrio KAM and now has an injunction against them. You can google about the hit on an "Avenues" gang member in LA County to gain their 13 blessings. Go ahead and google it. As a matter of fact google both crews and you can see the historia on a couple websites. So before you huff and puf about taggers not being real Varrios, you should do a little research. I agree that the there is a grey area, with the "GRAFFITI" artists crews such as TV and a few others that do graffiti, but they do not bang or set trip, but love the game for what it was intended to be before POLITICKIN' kicked in. ain't nothing wrong with someone's stilo, as long as they don't fuck with me. So do your thing eh.
And good clecha on the San Marcos situation. By the way, Lonewolf, why did you let some mocoso on here let his shit fly about Lincoln Heights, when this section is a San Diego Posting? A little censorship on idiotic rants would be nice. If not, just let it all hang out! Orale.
By the way, here is the article from the CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT in regards to the tagging crew KAM in Los Angelese to back up my claim. Check it out. I also have another one coming about Varrio South Los in San Marcos to support that other vatos claim that they are a very small gang that recruit little kids. here it is part one:
It was uncontroverted that appellant stabbed Hugo Cruz many times during an unprovoked attack in the Los Angeles Men's Central Jail. On May 29, 2003, around 7:15 a.m., appellant and Cruz were housed in separate one-man cells in the jail's discipline module, which was the area designated for jail rule violators. On that morning, appellant and Cruz were among approximately 10 inmates, wearing only boxer shorts and shower shoes, who were escorted by two sheriff's deputies from their cells to the shower area. Ordinarily, when inmates were escorted out of the discipline module, they were waist-chained and handcuffed. The only time inmates ever left the discipline module without waist chains and handcuffs and were near one another without restraints was when they were taken in small groups to the showers. They were not searched before entering the showers.
After showering silently and without incident, the men began walking back to their respective cells. They were monitored by two deputies through security gates. No deputy walked on the row with the inmates because of the security risk of being outnumbered, and the inmates were not required to walk in the usual single-file order. The cell gates had been left open, and the inmates were supposed to enter their cells and wait for the deputies to close the gates. As appellant and Cruz reached cell 4, appellant, who was the last person walking down the row, and Cruz, who was second to last, were basically side-by-side.
Suddenly, without a word, appellant punched Cruz on the left side of his jaw. Cruz had done nothing to provoke the attack. Cruz fell to the floor on his side. Appellant pulled something from his boxer shorts and with a stabbing motion, struck Cruz with a closed fist 12 to 14 times. A piece of metal sticking out from the top of his fist appeared to be a “shank,” a makeshift stabbing weapon, usually made from metal found in the jail.
One of the deputies immediately ordered the other inmates into their cells. The deputy repeatedly shouted for appellant to stop fighting but appellant ignored the orders to stop. The deputy radioed for backup, and backup deputies arrived within seconds. Appellant got up, stepped over Cruz, and returned to his cell. A deputy opened his gate, he entered the cell, and the deputy locked it. More than 10 deputies began a search for the shank. Within minutes, all of the inmates on the row were cleared out of their cells, and the deputies searched each cell individually. The weapon was never found.
Cruz sustained multiple deep puncture wounds, mostly to his chest and back. He bled profusely from the wounds, making a puddle of blood inside his boxer shorts. Nurses and paramedics were summoned. The first nurse to arrive at the scene determined that he was in critical condition because of the blood loss and treated him to staunch the flow of blood and prevent him from becoming unconscious or going into shock. He was taken on a gurney to the jailhouse clinic and from there to the emergency room of a hospital where he received further treatment.
Cruz, whose moniker was “Moreno,” was a member of the Cypress clique of the predominately Hispanic Avenues street gang (Avenues). Appellant, whose moniker was “Shadow” or “Shakey,” was a member of another Hispanic street gang known as Krazy Ass Mexicans (KAM or Kamsters). On appellant's right arm was the tattoo “13,” which reflected his allegiance to the Mexican Mafia. M is the 13th letter of the alphabet, and a “13” tattoo was one way for a Hispanic gang member to identify himself as a dedicated Mexican Mafia gang member.
Sergeant Richard Valdemar, who was assigned to the major crimes bureau of the sheriff's department, supervising the prison gang section, testified about the activities of the Mexican Mafia. He explained that the Mexican Mafia is both a prison gang and a criminal street gang, formed in 1956, and operating in prisons and jails. The Mexican Mafia controlled the activities of Southern California Hispanic criminal street gangs through intimidation and edicts (rules). Valdemar described how the Mexican Mafia orchestrated jailhouse murders, called “hits.”
Representatives of the Mexican Mafia in each jail or prison enforced the rules, and the leader was called a “shot caller.” Anyone who disrespected the rules of the Mexican Mafia was punished by being placed on a “green light” list, which identified the gang member by his name, moniker and gang affiliation. The Mexican Mafia issued the green light lists and communicated them to the shot callers in each institution, who then covertly distributed the lists or communicated them orally throughout the jail or prison. The lists were written on tiny pieces of paper and hidden in clothing or in a body cavity. The shot caller distributed the lists to the various modules and onto the rows of cells to representatives who passed them on down the row, bits of paper tied to a piece of thread (“a kite”), or words whispered through the vents.
One rule of the Mexican Mafia prohibited Hispanic gang members from fighting each other (“set tripping”) when they were in custody. When an inmate was “green lighted,” however, the ban against set tripping was lifted and it was “open season” on that inmate. An individual on the “personal hard candy” list was to be killed with a shank. “Hard candy” means a shank or a knife. Generally, if a person was on the personal hard candy list, he could not get off the green light list, regardless of what he did, until he was either killed or transferred to another custodial facility, where his name would appear on that facility's green light list.
The shot caller would devise a plan and select someone to carry out the “hit.” An inmate designated to do a hit was then issued a weapon from the Mexican Mafia's custodial arsenal. Although jails are constantly searched for weapons, the Mexican Mafia is able to maintain an armory within the jail and to hide weapons in the vicinity of the planned attack. The shot caller assigned other inmates to act as lookouts and to dispose of the weapon afterwards. If a person who is assigned to commit a jailhouse murder does not succeed, or at least make a good faith attempt, then he will be put on the green light list himself for his act of defiance.
On March 2, 2002, Deputy Carpenter had found a green light list which described Cruz by his moniker, his name, his gang, and his clique within the gang. His name appeared on each of six other lists discovered between June 2001 and June 2003—every green light list recovered by deputies during that period. He was on the personal hard candy section of each of these lists.
Now here is the article about the war with Varrio San Marcos and South Los:
SAN MARCOS ---- Mention the two recent shootings in their neighborhood and the four Latino teenagers don't even flinch. They're members of the South Los gang. The Richmar neighborhood belongs to them.
But when asked whether their rival gang from the west side of town, Varrio San Marcos, has recently started moving into their turf, the stone-faced youths grudgingly nod their heads.
"They are trying to kick us out, but they are never going to take over," said one of the gang members, an 18-year-old wearing an all-black Los Angeles Dodgers cap and a shiny black jacket with the words South Los Angeles across the chest. "We are the same old South Los and we are just as strong as ever."
The South Los gang, however, is actually weakening and breaking a sensitive balance of power between the city's two gangs, San Diego County Sheriff's Department officials said last week.
For decades, gang members have roamed the streets of the poorer neighborhoods in San Marcos, using intimidation and violence to assert their control.
Reducing gang activity has long been a priority for city and law enforcement officials, and gang violence in San Marcos has steadily declined to a point where it is less of a problem than it is in neighboring cities.
But two gang-related shootings highlight a recent increase in gang activity in the Latino neighborhood in the center of the city that has become both safer and better maintained in the last decade, city and sheriff's officials said.
Because arrests are reducing South Los' membership, officials said, its rival Varrio San Marcos has moved on the offensive and associates of that gang are believed to be connected to the shootings that sent a 12-year-old boy and a man to the hospital in the last two weeks.
Seeking revenge
A longtime member of Varrio San Marcos who agreed to be interviewed for this story didn't answer questions about the recent shootings, but he said Varrio San Marcos had made a recent push to "finish (South Los off)."
"South Los is falling apart because we are attacking them," said the man, who requested he remain anonymous because he feared retribution.
"It's revenge," he said, explaining the recent shootings.
The revenge stems back to an incident on Halloween 2004, when an associate of Varrio San Marcos was fatally shot by a member of South Los, the man said.
He said "everyone knows" who killed his buddy, and Varrio San Marcos did not retaliate for nearly a year because it expected law enforcement authorities to arrest the man.
"It's real hard when he is running around, and our homey is sitting in a cemetery," the man said, frustration in his voice.
He then said the gang planned to take matters into its own hands since the sheriff's deputies have not arrested anyone in connection with the slaying.
But the man said he would never directly tell law enforcement authorities who committed the crime because it would be "narcing," and, he said, deputies already know the assailant.
No cooperation, no easy case
The Sheriff's Department continues to investigate the slaying and has some solid leads on the case, said San Marcos sheriff's Capt. Tom Bennett, who was previously in charge of the sheriff's homicide division and was serving his first day in San Marcos on Friday.
"But there is a big difference between knowing who did it and developing a case," Bennett said.
He said with murder investigations it can take a year or two to bring together the information needed to prosecute a case, and the sergeant in charge of the gang unit in San Marcos said gang investigations are usually very difficult.
"With about 90 percent of the crimes done between gang members, we contact the victim and they say they are not going to cooperate," Sgt. Gary Floyd said. "Gang members are the biggest hindrance to us solving crimes because they won't talk."
Floyd said the man's comments were the first the department had heard about Varrio San Marcos seeking revenge.
Law enforcement officials expected retaliation soon after the Halloween 2004 shooting, but nothing significant took place, he said.
"I find it hard to believe, though, that they waited a year," Floyd said. "Generally they don't wait for law enforcement to do their job.
"What (the gang member) says may be true, but you have to take it with skepticism because they have an agenda and will use you to further it."
Players in San Marcos
Floyd, who has been head of the San Marcos gang unit for the past couple of years, recalls gang incidents in the city going back to the 1980s.
For as long as Floyd or anyone else can remember, the Varrio San Marcos gang has claimed ownership of the city. The gang is primarily centered in the part of the city west of Rancho Santa Fe Road, but a group called Wolfpack, which is based near the post office on Twin Oaks Valley Road, is also associated with the gang.
"Wolfpack and VSM are the same, and we are all one," said the gang member, who is associated with both groups.
There are about 70 documented gang members in Varrio San Marcos, and most of them range in age from mid-teens to mid-20s, said Floyd.
All of the members of Varrio San Marcos are Latino males, and the same is true of those affiliated with South Los.
"We represent Los Angeles," said one of the four members of the South Los gang cruising down Mission Road last week.
The teenagers and sheriff's officials said the gang started in San Marcos in the late 1980s when a mother moved her four sons to the Richmar area in an effort take them away from the gang environment of South Los Angeles.
The four brothers then started the chapter of South Los in San Marcos, but Floyd said the local gang now only has a loose connection with the Los Angeles group.
South Los is based in the Richmar neighborhood, especially the area south of the railroad tracks, and it tends to be younger than Varrio San Marcos, said both Floyd and the Varrio San Marcos member.
Floyd said South Los members tend to range in age from 12 to 20 years old and they tend to be more recent immigrants from Mexico.
Arrests in the past couple of years, however, have reduced the number of documented members of South Los from as many as 130 to less than 20, Floyd said.
"In the last year we have concentrated on that area and made a lot of arrests," Floyd said. "Some of the people we arrested were deported because they were (illegal immigrants)."
Gang violence
Floyd said the declining number has led South Los to begin recruiting many 12- and 13-year-olds.
The Varrio San Marcos gang member said his group doesn't do the same.
"South Los forces a lot of little kids to join," the Varrio San Marcos member said. "They are a bunch of little kids and they should get involved in sports or something. Or maybe their parents should move away.
"They are kids from south of the border who claim L.A., but most of them have never even been to L.A. This is San Marcos, this is our city."
The man said the South Los gang is more prone to use rocks and baseball bats to intimidate people, and sheriff's officials confirmed this.
Neither gang walks around with guns, but members of both gangs echoed similar sentiments: "If we need guns we could get thousands of them."
Most crimes committed are gang-on-gang, such as the shooting on Halloween 2004, sheriffs officials said.
But there are no major ongoing conflicts between the gangs in San Marcos and groups from surrounding cities, said both gang members and sheriff's officials.
The officials also said the San Marcos-based gangs don't engage in criminal enterprise such as selling drugs to finance their activities.
Most gang members still live with their parents, and most of the crimes committed by gang members are robberies or assaults in their neighborhoods, officials said.
The violence rarely spreads to other neighborhoods or onto school campuses, sheriff's officials said.
"The school district has done an outstanding job of keeping any gang activity on school campuses at bay," Floyd said.
Addressing the problem
Before children even reach high school, Gabriela Baeza of the San Diego County Office of Education's Safe Schools program works with youngsters to deter them from joining a gang.
She said access to drugs, alcohol and girls lures many to gangs, and when asked why they joined a gang, all of the members interviewed immediately said respect.
"They want you to know they are powerful," said Maria Cortez, the longtime owner of Mr. Taco, a restaurant on Mission Road.
She recalled an incident a couple of months ago when South Los members beat a man crossing the train tracks with a stick, but she said the gangs in town used to be stronger and have older members.
When comparing the number of gang members in San Marcos to other North County cities, San Marcos falls in the middle of the pack.
According to statistics released earlier this year by the North County Regional Gang Task Force, there are 1,153 gang members in Oceanside, 359 in Vista, 286 in Escondido, 176 in San Marcos, 93 in Encinitas, 83 in Fallbrook and 74 in Carlsbad.
"Gang violence overall in San Marcos has decreased dramatically since the early- and mid-'90s," Floyd said. "In the early 1990s we had a lot of gang activity between the two gangs and drive-by shootings were not infrequent."
Part of the decline is the result of a 1998 gang injunction in the area of Bradley Park which focuses on members of Varrio San Marcos.
Since 1997, courts have granted 12 gang injunctions countywide, including four in Oceanside, two in Escondido and a recent one in Vista.
Gang injunctions have been criticized for being a violation of individual rights, and former San Marcos sheriff's Capt. Kim Quaco said it's difficult to get the courts to approve a gang injunction because the community must demonstrate a high level of criminal gang activity.
But San Marcos City Manager Rick Gittings said the city is looking into the possibility of a gang injunction in the Richmar neighborhood.
Quaco also said the city could look at updating its current gang injunction around Bradley Park. In the meantime, Quaco said the Sheriff's Department is going to shift some of its focus to Varrio San Marcos areas of town because of the recent increase in violence.
"The community looks to the police when we have a problem like gangs, but we all have a big role to play," said Mary Anne Dijak, who coordinates programs at several low-income housing projects in the Richmar neighborhood.
She said the neighborhood was so dangerous at one time "people wouldn't deliver pizza because they didn't feel safe."
But she said the city's efforts to revitalize the Richmar neighborhood with new stucco apartment complexes that are more closely monitored has really helped improve the area.
The city also pays a part-time worker to remove graffiti from both public and private property on a daily basis.
"All of these things add up to a higher quality of life for people in the community," City Manager Gittings said. "They then take ownership of the community because they don't want it to slide backward."
The city, Sheriff's Department and office of education have all held workshops designed to help parents tell whether children are in a gang and how to prevent it.
Baeza, who runs prevention programs for the school district at a couple of the middle schools, said it makes sense that one gang would try to gain territory if its opponent is weakened. She said it's important the community knows about the gang activity so they can avoid it.
"Parents need information about resources that are out there and kids need to know how gangs can affect them," Baeza said. "The kids I work with live in the community and they see gang members and fear them."
Huffing and puffing about taggers...ay homie I agree with that one dude. I know the history of SD tagbangers and the Eme edict too. Most of the tagbangers in SD don't put in work. I got respect for Calle 32, MV73, ESDAE,ESDEBS, VCVNBLS, NCMTK, CHICLS..cause they got down for a VARRRIO, and they put in work... They no longer bang for "initials and a wall," like that homie put it.
Nowdays you have these little tagbanging crews popping up in SESD and SBSD with silly ass names(that do change day by day), that are banging just for their initials. It's like they like the G lifelstyle, but they are too afraid to commit to it. Or sometimes you have the extreme opposite, tagbangers that kill someone just over a crossout, or they kill citizens that paint over their graffiti. They aren't playing the G's game, they are playing children's games by fussing over the writing on the wall.
I say all these taggers that go in the fish tank should drop the tagging crew mentality, and click up with the respective varrio. For example... WK clicking up with Logan 30ta or logan 33, or becoming LHWK13, or SESDLS becoming SE Lincoln Park 13. I got real repect for Shelltown G's cause they keep it a varrio deal. ST cleaned out Hemlock cause HML was in ST's hood, repping HML and not ST. Now they are cleaning out 73LS for the same reason. Look at Logan. WTF is going on there? They let a few tagger crews come into the middle of their hood, set up shop, and rep their shit.
Can anybody give the true history of SE LOKOS? I heard that the OG's were Logan, Sherman, and Shell Town dropouts. How did they end up having a click in the South Bay? Did SE LOKOS become SESDLocos?
YOUNGSTER R.I.P. 2/22/2009
VARRIO SAN MARCOS GHOST TOWN
Anybody know whatever happened to the tagbanging crew SPC? I remmeber somebody had told me(mind you this was over 10 years ago) that they became some sort of National City gang..I remember they took out HK and beat up their own homeboys putting fools in the hospital..Also is KBP still out they also went to my high school and they feuded heavy with NSH
In re: tagging crews, ok, thanks for clearing the air. I didn't know where you stood info wise so despensa homie if I came at you sideways, no ill intent.
I agree with you on that point, that crews that tag are schitzophrenic in the sense that they keep in the grey area without committing. But in time that shit eventually bottoms out and washes itself out. They eventually click up. It's only a matter of time. Dude, I completely agree with the Logan fiasco that is currently taking place. BUt I have to tell you, with the mandatory 10 year sentencing enhancement for gang related beefs, that has locked up alot of og's and this is why the calles are so fucking wreckless right now, and will be for years to come, because there is NO LEADERSHIP or CHECKIN' going on right now, no one to guide the young vatos. I am from 30ta homie, did my tiempo and I am 32 years old. I see all kinds of bullshit in the Varrio when I go to IGA or to Porkyland homie. I don't wtf is going on anymore. Chicano Park day is the only day I see all of my old camaradas. But I get what you are saying ese. No hay pedo.
But in regards to what you said about Shelltown checkin' 73MV, I have to tell you first hand, that is completely the opposite of what is happening. Here is what is going on straight from a vato and someone who knows the jugo. Now mind you, this is coming from LE that works that division. Check it out:
Call it what you want... Shelltown 38th Street doesn't have it "in effect..." Tell everyone how ST38th St. gang is losing half their turf to those you call "Shaving Trees" and "Snatch Three." The generation before you fronted HML when it tried to establish itself...and got rid of it quick like...your generation just gave it up and still losing it. SE73 seems to be alive and well in what "used to be 38th Street turf." You know what homie... been around long enough to know you're just a punk and that's without knowing who you are. Try growing up someday and be a "responsible adult."
wanted to emphasize how ST38th Street DOES NOT have it in effect. They've done several shootings in the SE73 area and they have yet to hit a rival. They have shot nothing but innocent people. One man, close to 50 years old was killed when someone from 38th Street fired over a fence as the man and his family played cards and drank beer. These people had just moved into the neighborhood. Had nothing to do with absolutely nothing in gang stuff.
The second murder happened when 38th St. pulled up in a vehicle and shot an innocent kid. Other shootings have been the same. A couple of drive by shootings at homes of people don't bang. Simpy put, Shelltown 38th Street members are "not it effect..." They are suffering from and affected by "HUA"... (Head Up Ass!)
TO WHOEVER WROTE ABOUT TAGGERS:
THE LIFE STYLE WE LIVE IS ONE OF DANGER NOT JUST CLIMIN FENCES BUILDINGS BRIDGES RUNNIN FREEWAYS BUT LOOK AT OUR HIT UPS WE GOT MORE THAN ONE HIT UP PER CITY WE GET UP EVEN KNOWIN THAT WE ARE UNLIKED BY GANG BANGERS AN IF WE GET CAUGHT UP WITH SOMETHIN ELSE WE GONA DO TIME YOU ASK WHY WE DONT GET DOWN FOR A VARRIO LET ME GIVE U SUM HISTORY TAGGIN CREW MEMBERS ALL LIVE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF SD BUT MET TOGETHER AT SUMMIT IN HIGH SCHOOL AT THE PARK ALL TAGGIN KREWS NO MATER WAT PEOPLE WANNA SAY WERE STARTED FOR THE ART I LOVE THE TRILL OF RUNNIN UP N DOWN A FREEWAY CLIMIN BILLBOARDS HANGIN FROM FREEWAYS N ALL THAT MOST OF THE G FROM VARRIOS ARE EX TAGGERS IF U THINK BOUT IT FOOLS THAT ARENT TAKEN OVER BY BEIN FROM A VARRIO ARE REAL DOWN FOOLS KNOWIN THE CONSEQUENCES WE STILL DO WAT WE DO AND THERES ALWAYS GONNA BE TAGGERS BELONGIN TO A VARRIO WOULD TAKE AWAY WHAT WE ARE WHERE WE CAME FROM WATS IN CHICANO PARK ART THATS WHAT WE DO WE SHOOT THEY SHOOT AT US WE DO TIME WE STEAL WE ARE BROKE WE SELL DRUGS WE NO DIFFERENT THAN A GANG JUST THAT WE ARE NOT DEFINED BY LINES WE ARE DEFINED BY THE SPOTS WE GET HOW HIGH HOW DANGEROUS
TMK*LOUDS*STRIKT*SMURK
TO THE ONES TALKIN BOUT UFK:
UFK WAS PREVIOUSLY APS YES A TAGGIN CREW STARTED IN MISSION BAY HIGH RELOCATED IN SOUTHEAST AND SHERMAN(I SEPARATE SE AND SM BECAUSE SM DOES NOT BELONG TO SE JUST LIKE LOGAN SHELLTOWN 73'S)UFK IS A TAG BANGIN CREW ALSO KNOWN AS UFC UFKC UFCK 835 83K 83C 2106 2106K UFK IS A DOWN CREW PUTTIN IN WORK IN SESD SCENCE 1992-PRESENT AND STILL ACTIVE BEEFIN WITH TNS(NOW A GANG)UIS TEW SEK(NEW VERSION NOT OLD SKOOL) TB 73S LETS PUT IT LIKE THIS WITH 1000 GANGS/CREWS OUT THERE UF GETS ALONG WITH 10 LIKE KN,SM,LD,OCP,SBI ODDS ARE 10 TO 1000 UF PUTS IT DOWN WITH CREW MEMBERS IN STATE PRISONS UF REMAINS A KREW A 13 MAY APPEAR IN A FAR FUTURE BUT FOR NOW IS UFKREW UF IS IN NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH vENCANTO vMARKET vSHERMAN THEY ARE ONLY ACCUANTAINCES PEOPLE THEY KNOW AND GREW UP WITH
JUST REMEMBER TRUST NO SNITCH*TIJUANA NEEDS SUPPORT*TINY NUTT SACK*50TA ST HAHA 5-0 STREET SNITCH STREET*TELLIN N SNITCHIN*
SExLKS SICKO*MALO*PATO*ANIMAL*WHO SAID SExLKS DONT HAVE A VARRIO WE OWN SOUTHEAST SAN DIEGO FROM DA 94 SOUTH TO THE 805 EAST TO DIVISION NORTH TO 125 AKA 54 WEST
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SOUTHEASTxSANDIEGOxSLEEPY THE REAL ONE
ha ha ha! That was funny Malo. Seriously, you have a good sense of humor. LOL. What a pil de mierda you wrote. What a fucken joke you are. Your facts are lame, the facts have been STATED before in regards to historia. And if you took your head out of your ass you would see that most who REALLY know and been around the block more than your young ass tend to agree. LAAAME.
SHERMAN IS SOUTHEAST STUPID
im not saying its untrue but im just wondering, how is that UF is cool with OCP and LD when they are not with each other. and also be cool with vSM and Encanto when THEY are not with each otherjust wondering cuz i thought that the gangs and crews around here were on some "your either with us or with them" type shit..
good shit tho. anybody got any other istoria on other crews like TEW UIS RTS OEK .......
or graff crews like MDR SDV DAT TV ......
About that 73 and ST thing...that was a while back when 73 had the upper hand in the MV area. And, that quote is about one and a half years old! It's straight from Ret. SDPD "detective Felix's" website. Things have changed now. 73 has been green lighted by ST veteranos in the pen. The reason was because 38th Street was getting a real bad name from other SD varrios since they were letting their varrio go, and they were killing civilians. Just about a month and a half ago, there were five homeboys killed in Mountain View on one weekend! Supposedly 2 from ST, and 3 from 73. For some reason, it didn't make the news (although, single homicides in MV seem to always make the news). Ever since that weekend, ST has had 73 on the run. There is a shoot on site mandate that has been given to the younger ST boys. It looks like the younger generation has gotten the hint from the older generation......Get rid of MV73LS and quit hitting civilians, or we are going to clean up the back yard.
I don't think SPC took out HK. HK turned trece and became Hispanic Kings 13 Locos. They were from SBSD (Chula Vista) right? One of the "heads" from HKLS was in the news last year. He was that homie that escaped from Bailey with two other vatos. He was in for murdering a kid from IB (lit up the front door of his house with an automatic). I guess the kid he murdered was the wrong target. The news showed him telling off the victim's family and the judge during the sentencing. Anyway, I think HK sort of died off around that time. They used to have heads in Spring Valley too, but I think they were originally from the Castle Park neighborhood in Chula Vista.
i went to school with a lot of SPC and HK heads they were all mostly from National City and Paradise Hills and SPC took out HK and some of the members splintered to other crews like UNO...I remember hearing a rumor SPC started calling itself National City Crip Cartel or some shit for awhile not sure how true that is since I havent heard of SPC or NCCC or HK in years
HKLS used to have a lot of heads in CV and SSD. NC Crip Cartel and SPC are new to me. In NC Ive heard of 26ST Bloods, NCBloods, and CK Avenue.
The HK I knew of was Hispanic Kings (AKA Hispanic Kings 13, Hispanic Kings Locos). They claimed South San Diego (HKLSX3SSD). No National City gang has (or probably ever will) claim SSD, but some CV gangs claim South San Diego.
HK in CV was really active in the early part of this decade, but they started to go inative around 2006. There were loads of hitups in the Castle park and Harborside neighborhoods. They used to beef with VCV, and I think they might have beefed with Otay ans West Sidel Locos too.
Around 2004-2006 they had heads that either moved to the Spring Valley area (near the Bay Terraces neighborhood of SD)or HK expanded by jumping in new members that lived around that area. That one homie from CV got arrested for that murder around 2006.
It probably is the same HK. It seems like most klickas are all over the place. They probably got smashed on in NC, died off there, and then made a come back in CV. During the mid and late 90's,it seemed like CVPD was all over VCV. It looked like PD was trying to completely shut VCV down. VCV got real small for a while, and all these new gangs started poppin up in CV (WSLS,SSC,SB13 TLS,HKLS, FBCLS,HEMCLS). Maybe the HK from NC was started up again in CV.
I think the only two gangs left from that period are WSLS and FBCLS (AKA MH Fifth Block). West Side Locos looks like it is on its way out though. Recently VCV got deep again, and they were smashing on WSLS big time for a while. CVPD is all over VCV...busting them up again. It's almost like they went from deep to small overnight!
To the homie dropping knowledge about CHULA VISTA..you left out American BOMBERBOYS.
Yea - i remember EGOR's cousin (he chilled w/ us for a little bit..he was a short dude - youre right!
I miss chula vista in the early / mid 90's..thats when shit popped off and was handled immediately. the SOUTHSIDE was on fire then!
Stay up homie -
it's a small world, crazy!
YOGGSTER
IDMOBBERSxDEADENEDBOYSxBABYLUNATICSxTINYLUNATICSx
thanks for the info in regards to what is really crackin in Shelltown. You are correct, that was a lift from Det. Aguirre's webpage. He hasn't posted about the MV/ST thing for a hot minute, so I was unaware about the light on MV. It is a heavy thing for them to be bearing right now, but if the light came from state, then those little vatos better oblige. I'll tell you one thing,that is a war going on over there! Let's hope no more civilians get toe tagged and the homeboys follow the reglas.
TO THE VATO THAT SAID SHERMAN WAS SOUTHEAST U WRONG SHERMAN FOOLS KIK IT WITH EASTSIDERS SO HOW WOULD THAT WORK HALF N HALF OR WHAT TO THAT OTHER FOOL THAT SAID I DONT KNOW THE FACTS CHECK IT I KIK IT WITH FOOLS FROM UF MY TWO OLDER BROTHERS ARE OGS FROM SE WHO DA FUCK R U
TO THE VATO THAT ASKED WHY UF IS KOOL WITH LDC AND OCPK AND vSM AND v69 IS IF YOU KOOL U KOOL IF U AINT FUCK U IF YOU DONT GET ALONG WITH OTHERS WE KOOL WITH THATS YOUR PEDO THE THING IS UF IS DIVIDED SOME LIVE HERE SOME LIVE THERE
SHERMAN IS NOT SOUTHEAST ITS SOUTH CENTRO
to whoever put up the TINTO gangs up keep that shit out this post vato this is talkin bout varrios
Hey menso..thanks for trying to school us on Sherman...but Barrio Sherman is IN Southeast San Diego, and they claim Southeast San Diego. WTF is South Centro??? There's no South Centro side in SD. Are you even from Dago? Just because SM kicks it with ESD doesn't mean they aren't from SESD, or that they don't claim SESD.
And to this weenie:
"to whoever put up the TINTO gangs up keep that shit out this post vato this is talkin bout varrios"
Why don't you keep yourself out of this post if you don't like what you read. Some of us are interested in learning about other hoods in SD. That's what this forum is for...education. Keep the racist shit out of this forum.
You should go hang out with that weenie from Lincoln Heights. You and him can bump swords together while you diss my African American brothers.
I got respect for all G's...raza, Black, White , Native, Islander, and Asian.
BARRIO WOP TOWN KRAZY BOYS WEST SIDE SAN DIEGO 13 FUCK OUR ENEMIGAS!!!
Wow. A little emotional are we Mr. UF? Or is it Mr. SE LKS? OR IS IT MR. TMK? Check your post. If I would have known you were so sensitive I would have been a little bit "nicer" to you, like a firme hyna. No need for you to get your calzones in a twist and go cry over a comment. You should learn to take criticism like a grain of salt, and not be such a cyber tough guy banger, becuase you obviously showed your true colors by acting like a child. But hey, if you feel all aca by being hard online then push the paint hard guy! No te aweetes tanto ese. It's a blog joven. Relax.
Ditto to the vato that posted about Sherman. They are Southeast SD. Varrio's can chill with other varrios' and it doesn't mean they switched demographics. AS we stated on here before, South East is considered anything Southeast of DTSD, so Sherman, which overlaps Logan in a few parts, is considered South East SD.
And you wanted to know who the fuck I am? This is Original from 30ta. Out of 3 yard, RJD. No time for lames.
had a question for anyone really: if taggers are looked down on because they dont commit to a hood shouldnt vatos dat claim like sssd or sesd or essd be looked upon the same way i mean a lot of taggers claim ss or se etc. and these vatos claim a whole area with no attachments to a varrio
Actually in a sense, within the bigger scope of things we all rep our areas without a commitment to a gang. First and foremost, we are Southerners, without question. Under that umbrella we are from SD, then you can break it down to the finest points after that, but in the pinta there are several vatos that don't claim a gang or clicka and are still bonafide Surenos and put in work. Dudes from all over the Southland. There was this Puerto Rican vato from South Bay (Shouts out to Chino!) who was my celly in Donovan for a few weeks before he was moved out. He didn't bang but he was reppin' South Bay, all blasted up from head to toe, and a solid South Sider. No one is looked down upon for not being in a gang. Alot of vatos just rep their side of town. I know plenty of homeboys that rep South East, but don't bang it, the same with East Side. I work construction and alot of the young vatos when we ask them where they are from (not in a banging sense, but geographically) they usual default answer is "I grew up in so and so area, on this block, but I never banged." We all know someone or people that grew up around the homeboys or may have familia, but chose not to bang. We never look down upon people like that. I hope that answers your question.
you kinda went in another direct there man good stuff but i dont think u understood the question i was refferin to vatos that do bang the sides se ss es you know vato that plakasos read SExSD ROWDY malo some comments up is another example or SSSD SNOOPY you know thats not a hood its a side n they are not commited to one hood how does that work
Orale homie, I see your pregunta now. Well that goes with the whole gray area of things and I guess it all comes down to being a new phenomenon because I am hearing and seeing this shit just like you, but these aren't recognized clickas or gangas so when fools catch a case I guess we'll see which side of the line they'll tow when it comes down to it. But I understand where you are coming from because they are bangin' their SIDE, but not gang, so I don't know any one that does that so we'll see which direction these younger vatos are going to go with that shit.
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS ANY GANG CREW THAT BANGS WEST COAST SAN DIEGO I SEEN HIT UPS N SHIT BUT NO NAME I KNOW BLACK GANGS DO LIKE WESTCOAST 30ST AND WESTCOAST 20ST BUT ANY MEXICANS DO ?????
theres mexicans that bang WestSide not WestCoast.
if you saw hitups and tags that said WestCoast San Diego than what makes you think it could be mexicans?
and where specifically have you seen it?
WELL TO THAT REMARK THAT THE FOO POSTED ABOUT SKIPPY....
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ALRATOZ
GRIPS
WE MISS YOU TO GRANDE SO DONT FORGET ABOUT US FOO AND WATCH OVER US WITH SKIPPY UP THERE .....
Grips,
Let me tell you something joven, first off I appreciate that you didn't come sideways talking masa on here. That goes to show that hold yourself to a different level of esteem than a lotta fools on this shit. I pointed out that if you noticed the memorial at the vigil that was posted for her at her death site you can see that you/your clicka draped a blue flag and placed brew bottles and hit up the milk crate that was there. That is something that isn't fabricated ese it is 100% FACT. Nothing about that can't be dismissed. Now, you and I have separate views on what disrespect is, and that can't be argued, however in the court of public opinion, you painted her situation to make everyone who isn't up on game to make it appear as if she was collateral damage. See, this is where shit gets twisted. Was she or wasn't she an innocent victim or banging? You can tell the people who don't know what you want to, but everyone in the game really knows what's going on homie. The bottom line is a spin was put on it to make it look like she was an innocent victim, just chillin and she got shot. But without going overboard, look at what happened homie. She was reppin' SEWK, enemigas hit the party and she got tagged. I am not trying to sugar coat what happened. Hannah past away but homie for anyone to say nothing less than it was becuase she was at the wrong place with the wrong fools is ignorant. You remember where Hanna lived? YUP. KEARNEY MESA HOMIE. Glidden Street. Waaaay the fuck away from South East. And yes, I am going to play the race card becuase if I am not mistaken I think she was part Russian or Middle eastern or some shit like that. She just got caught up. And don't you dare press the button and let me break it down on how I knew the fam since waaaaaaay back chamo. My point is, your clicka already has one down and now you crossed the line. you thought it was ok to be reppin on some bullshit and now you know the game ain't no bullshit on the calles. If you were a main head then you would do better than what you are doing and wrap it up, so that there won't be no more "innocent" bystandards hit.
HEY FOO U KNOW WHAT SERIO SHIT THANKS ESE....I NEED TO HEAR SHIT LIKE THAT... EVERYBODY LEARNS LITTLE AT A TIME AND SKIPPY WELL TO THE FAMILY I CAN NEVER SHOW ENOUGH SORROW OR ASK FOR FORGIVNESS BECAUSE I DONT HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT WE PUT THEM THROUGH BUT LIKE YOU SAID THIS IS NO GAME ITS TRUE STREETS....ESE I KNEW THAT BUT I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD HAPPEN LIKE THIS FOO...SHIT ALL I KNOW IS THAT RETALIATION IS A MUST...BUT TILL THEN KEEP IT KLOWNING....ESE I AINT TRYING TO ACT ALL FIRME AND SHIT BUT ITS THE WAY THAT IT IS FOO.. SHIT LOTS OF FOOS LIVE IN ENEMIGA ZONE BUT SHIT WHY SKIPPY ESE??U FEEL ME FOO...MAN WELL THANKS FOR THE POINT OF VIEW ESE I AM NOT GOING TO SAY IF SKIPPY WAS OR WASENT AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER BECAUSE I RESPECT THE FAMILY ENOUGH TO KEEP THAT TO WHOEVER KNOWS AND WELL SHE WAS A ONE OF THE KIND....AND DAM ESE I REGRET SO MUCH AND ITS TO LATE TO SAY SHIT BUT I HOPE SHE HEARS ME AND UNDERSTANDS .....
WELL ESE FIRME TALKING TO YOU FOO AND ITS ALL GOOD ESE WERE NOT ALL PERFECT FOO BUT WE TRY...
GRIPS WICKED KLOWNSE
R.I.PARADISE SKIPPY AND GRANDE
Orale Grips. Good conversation joven y cuidate. One day you will put all that bullshit behind you and know that life has more in store than a block that nobody owns. You will be in my shoes one day saying the same shit that I am telling you. I know it is an old cliche played out but get your head in escuela or get a legit jale and do good for yourself ese. You can always rep and be from your clicka for life, but don't sell yourself short homeboy. Don't be another pendejo doing 15 while you can't be there to support your familia. Be trucha and be smart. Alrato.
does sexsd beef it with st38 or gamma boys?
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